Guyz I fell off the wagon - Mesa content.

All the headache probably worth it since it resulted in you getting a seemingly flawless unit for closer to older prices on these :chef



A while back I had a Rivera from GC that I did ultimately end up having to return, but out of it I ended up being at no financial loss and a free quad of groove tubes that they sent me throughout the process trying to suss out the issue that I got to keep (still have them, fresh and mostly unused lol)
 
Maybe it is your old one. :unsure:

I had the same thought.
You guys are cracking me up. It did occur to me, in part because it also has the same bent rack ear my old one had. I suspect a lot of these had bent ears though, and I doubt the 5751 is that deep of a cut anymore.

It would be a really weird ending to a weird story though wouldn’t it.
 
Million dollar question - the 6600hz slider knob is broken off. It doesn’t look like Mesa sells them anymore. I was thinking maybe asking a friend if I could pay him to try and 3D print me something I could retrofit on the slider.

Anyone know where to track these down or know of a better replacement than the rounded ones Mesa sells now?
 
This preamp kicks so much ass. I haven’t even hooked it up to the Mark III’s power amp yet. It’s running through the VIR cabs in Tonex while I work out levels and hopefully dial in a couple capture-worthy tones.

A couple takeaways so far: The cleans might be my fav Mesa cleans. They are sweeter, rounder, and softer feeling than the Mark III. Very much a pushed/compressing blackface vibe. The lead channel compares with similar findings as the clean - rounder and sweeter on the Studio Preamp.

That’s not to say the Studio Preamp is better than the Mark III, they just do slightly different things. Just my opinion but I think the Studio Preamp does better vintage boogie, and the Mark III does tighter and more aggressive modern metal better.
 
This preamp kicks so much ass. I haven’t even hooked it up to the Mark III’s power amp yet. It’s running through the VIR cabs in Tonex while I work out levels and hopefully dial in a couple capture-worthy tones.

A couple takeaways so far: The cleans might be my fav Mesa cleans. They are sweeter, rounder, and softer feeling than the Mark III. Very much a pushed/compressing blackface vibe. The lead channel compares with similar findings as the clean - rounder and sweeter on the Studio Preamp.

That’s not to say the Studio Preamp is better than the Mark III, they just do slightly different things. Just my opinion but I think the Studio Preamp does better vintage boogie, and the Mark III does tighter and more aggressive modern metal better.

but how does it sound with a DS-1 tho
 

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OK guys, here we go. I come with gifts. Thanks to everyone for the moral support making this happen.

These captures are all Tonex. Some are the preamp direct, others are the preamp into my Mark III power amp.

Mesa Studio Preamp Direct Tone Models - these are direct from the preamp and will sound a little flat without a tube power amp in the mix:
Fatter Settings.jpeg

A fatter, looser general purpose high gain tone
Same Tone with no GEQ


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Tighter high gain
Same tone with no GEQ

Same Studio Preamp settings but through Mesa Mark III Simul Class power amp - 1960A tapped direct from the slave out - has all the juicy power amp interaction you want, bring your own IR

Mesa Mark III Simul Class Head captured the same way as previous capture:
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Reflecting on my time with the new gear this weekend there were some neat takeaways.

  1. Probably the biggest takeaway - the Mark III’s power amp makes a HUGE contribution to the overall tone and feel. The preamp on its own through an IR is cool, but not super inspiring. Once the power amp was introduced I saw the big push in the lows and highs which not only made the Studio Preamp sound massive, but also made it feel like playing a tube head again. That Cab/Amp interaction is key.
  2. The SP and Mark III can cover a lot of the same ground, but they have different strengths. The SP comes to the party to find someone to bring home. The Mark III comes to the party drunk and ready to fight.
  3. Getting the IIC+ tones is effortless on the SP. the liquid sustain, musical feedback, and that dry focus in the pick attack makes everything feel awesome. I played so many Hetfield riffs this weekend.
  4. Depending on the types of tones, there are things the III does better than the SP. The III has a tighter or more controlled low end. There is also the option to dial in more upper midrange and top end content, so the III can get a little brighter.
 
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