Fractal Talk

[Orvillain]

Honestly, you have like 10 times more noise and arrogance than you are perceiving of him.

Yes I agree. But I also don't give two single flying pig fucks.

all while you have zero contributions to the firmware? (unlike him)

You actually have no idea what kinds of contributions I have made over the years, and in a general sense, nor do I. But I know there are specific features that were put into the Axe III that came directly from my feedback; like the linear versus exponential damping options in the controller mapping. If you ever used that, then you're welcome.

Aside from that, plenty of amp-tonality feedback over the years too. But you know what I don't need to do? I don't need to suck myself off about it.

The least you can say is him having great ears for the amps/devices he has a lot of experience with (which seem to be plenty). Not only does that make him special, those people are the gems of the community. I have difficulty naming more than 5 or 10 on the FAS forum.

I disagree that he is special because he has "great ears" - lots of people do. Also, lots of people think they do. Therein lies a quandry for you to ponder.

PS: I'm not his fan, nor have I ever tried or purchased his presets. Just being fair!

Your rabid defense of him and condemnation of me says otherwise. "Fair" ?? Laughable.

PS: English is my first language, and my first love. Everything I do is for the Empire and West Bromwich Albion.

 

[Frodebro]

Not quite.

Nothing wrong with Noma's viewpoint on the matter of authentic/ideal parameters. That's a valid discussion topic which could have been discussed properly.

Where it went wrong is that NKP stated his opinion as the only true approach and therefore degraded Fractal's approach. That tickles any designer's nerves.

It was NOT a language issue. Noma started insulting dissenting members and telling them to shut up long before the final insult.
Normally I wouldn't go into this here. But Noma chose to post here, and opinions are being exchanged.

BTW, English is not my native language. So anything I write in this post can be interpreted in any way that suits your pov.

Signed by an old grump who lives in a toxic wasteland

Excellent presentation. Your intention was conveyed clearly.

 

[NKP]

It was NOT a language issue. Noma started insulting dissenting members and telling them to shut up long before the final insult

Wrong. I remember clearly what I said. There is no discussion about my last post : Yes, I clearly told him to shut up because it was enough. But I don’t have done that before him. No insults .The only thing I have said to another is « please be serious a second », and maybe a « you don’t know what you are talking about » . I m sure about that.

Also I don’t know what happened today as I’m not here since 24h . Don’t know why it end up erased.

 

[Frodebro]

Wrong. I remember clearly what I said. There is no discussion about my last post : Yes I clearly told him to shut up because it was enough. But I don’t have done that before him. No insults .The only thing I have said to another is « please be serious a second », and maybe a « you don’t know what you are talking about » . I m sure about that.

Also I don’t know what happened today that as I’m not here since 24h . Don’t know why it end up erased.

In most cases, the only time an entire thread is nuked is when it either is centered on one of the forbidden topics, or else it has gotten so far off the rails that the only way to be sure was to nuke the entire thing from orbit. That typically means that everybody is bickering, not just one or two people having at it.

 

[NKP]

If I had known it would turn out like this... I should have asked Cliff my question privately. Because, in fact, very often, if not always, it's him I talk to when I have a question, not one of those watchdogs, if you'll excuse the expression.

They are friendly people in fractal forum, but they are a few ones, wow … always there to put a bad ambience . They are lucky I’m not an admin

 

[NKP]

Anyway have a good day everyone , time to masturbate on my dual rectifier rev D that as been modified recently by a super talented local amp tech, my channel one is now a perfect clean ! (Orange and red are untouched) this amp is a beast, and with the fortin 33 as boost, it is probably the best tone I ever had with real gear . Life is good, fuck the war . I will be out for forums for a while cause I cannot share my passion as I wanted to. Too old now to battle for nothing

 

[crispsandwich]

NKP - you are clearly an insufferable, self-aggrandising arse. I love how people think that, because they post a lot on forums, it makes them better than others. Hilarious.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

They are friendly people in fractal forum, but they are a few ones

I can’t believe I’m defending that forum, but the vast majority there are good, friendly folk. There’s one or maybe two at the most that feel like they need to have the last word and be the authority on and chime in on every conversation there. You know who I’m referring to if you spend any time there. The rest couldn’t be more helpful and welcoming.

 

[KHAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!!!]

But you know what I don't need to do? I don't need to suck myself off about it.

 

[FracKing]

If I had known it would turn out like this... I should have asked Cliff my question privately.

I think this is something Cliff could consider, i.e. ask people to send their serious remarks in a PM. They will be worded more carefully and things cannot erupt in public. Lock the firmware thread from the start if he wants to, as Likes are apparently enough to make him happy. This will be safer and people can still start threads on what they want to address.

BTW, I feel Cliff should have replied like this to your first comment...

"Sorry. You are not wrong... We are still a smallish team with a lot on our plate, a new hire, etc. Ideally there would be AUTHENTIC / IDEAL tabs or the like, hints, tooltips, ... We want that too; hopefully during the next gen.
Meanwhile:
- Our philosophy is to offer you the potential to achieve these sounds and more!
- Here are some typical settings for the modeled pedals within the limits of the originals: [...] [also sharing those limits / ranges]"

I would recommend Justin York as the best example re. how to address (potential) customers...

 

[FracKing]

There’s one or maybe two at the most that feel like they need to have the last word and be the authority on and chime in on every conversation there.

One seems to have found a much better balance. He's not three times in every thread anymore...
At the same time they can all be valuable if you happen to need it. You have to be happy someone likes to address things to new people over and over again (even if they have been rewarded for that).
"One or two" is when you have three or four on ignore already...

 

[FracKing]

NKP - you are clearly an insufferable, self-aggrandising arse. I love how people think that, because they post a lot on forums, it makes them better than others. Hilarious.

If you have ever been punished for a good deed, you would understand that human reaction. It can make you want to kill people -- and I guess Cliff is often feeling the same thing...

 

[dean701]

Yes I agree. But I also don't give two single flying pig fucks.

Remus is always learning...

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

* wet farts *

 

[Richard_G]

I missed the whole thread...

 

[Frodebro]

I missed the whole thread...

I didn't see the thread, but I don't feel that I missed anything.

 

[paisleywookiee]

 

[BROCKSTAR]

 

[Frodebro]

 

[GTR37]

Not quite.

Nothing wrong with Noma's viewpoint on the matter of authentic/ideal parameters. That's a valid discussion topic which could have been discussed properly.

Where it went wrong is that NKP stated his opinion as the only true approach and therefore degraded Fractal's approach. That tickles any designer's nerves.

It was NOT a language issue. Noma started insulting dissenting members and telling them to shut up long before the final insult.
Normally I wouldn't go into this here. But Noma chose to post here, and opinions are being exchanged.

BTW, English is not my native language. So anything I write in this post can be interpreted in any way that suits your pov.

Signed by an old grump who lives in a toxic wasteland