Fractal Talk

FM-3 on my desk and fudging around with I/O is what made me just buy an Axe FX III.

And even that is kind of stunted with the I/O. It’s insanely flexible in certain ways and frustratingly limited in others. There is weird things like your digital I/O replacing input 1, and not being able to use different digital I/O at the same time (it’s basically one or the other). Left and Right channels are kind of limited too, you can get by with panning and using mixers to route things but it would be great if you could just use them freely.

You can still do a lot with the I/O and IMO Fractal’s platform comes to life when you have the Axe FX. If you’re already contemplating a floor unit and something on the desk, I’d just skip the middleman and go for the flagship. Way easier with cable management, and you’ll get the most mileage out of what it’s capable of doing. You’ll integrate it with your other gear much more easily and neatly.
 
MirrorProfiles said:
FM-3 on my desk and fudging around with I/O is what made me just buy an Axe FX III.

And even that is kind of stunted with the I/O. It’s insanely flexible in certain ways and frustratingly limited in others. There is weird things like your digital I/O replacing input 1, and not being able to use different digital I/O at the same time (it’s basically one or the other). Left and Right channels are kind of limited too, you can get by with panning and using mixers to route things but it would be great if you could just use them freely.

You can still do a lot with the I/O and IMO Fractal’s platform comes to life when you have the Axe FX. If you’re already contemplating a floor unit and something on the desk, I’d just skip the middleman and go for the flagship.
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BROCKSTAR said:
Ok so if i want them to be 2 fx loops then yes? :]
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There are a couple of issues here.

(1). If you want to use output 2 as effects loop rather than as a secondary output, yes, XLR-to-TRS cables from Out 1 are the way to go. Even if you are planning to plug that into a TS input (don't know what you were planning to run this to) I'd still go XLR-to-TRS cables because...they are more useful beyond this singular purpose and shouldn't be any worse than going XLR-to-TS cables.

(2). If you do choose to use output 2 as effects loop, keep in mind that you only have one "OUT2" block on the grid (and only one "IN2" block). Which is to say you REALLY only have 1 loop, though it can be stereo. You could rundown an @JiveTurkey rabbit hole of trying to figure out how to run one pedal on the left side and another one on the right, and use an expression pedal to pan across to which ever one you want active, but that...is a pain.

The FM3 is a great box IF it does everything you want it do without adding on peripherals (duh -- "its a box that can do what you want if it does what you want!"), but not a great box if you have to start trying to expand beyond it, IMO.
 
Boudoir Guitar said:
There are a couple of issues here.

(1). If you want to use output 2 as effects loop rather than as a secondary output, yes, XLR-to-TRS cables from Out 1 are the way to go. Even if you are planning to plug that into a TS input (don't know what you were planning to run this to) I'd still go XLR-to-TRS cables because...they are more useful beyond this singular purpose and shouldn't be any worse than going XLR-to-TS cables.

(2). If you do choose to use output 2 as effects loop, keep in mind that you only have one "OUT2" block on the grid (and only one "IN2" block). Which is to say you REALLY only have 1 loop, though it can be stereo. You could rundown an @JiveTurkey rabbit hole of trying to figure out how to run one pedal on the left side and another one on the right, and use an expression pedal to pan across to which ever one you want active, but that...is a pain.

The FM3 is a great box IF it does everything you want it do without adding on peripherals (duh -- "its a box that can do what you want if it does what you want!"), but not a great box if you have to start trying to expand beyond it, IMO.
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I ordered 2 hosa female to male xlr cables from sweetwater to go from fm3 xlr outputs to my jbl speakers
 
I think if i go guitar into boss vg-800 (zoia and eventide h90 in the vg-800 fx loop) and that's connected to boss gm-800 via serial cables, then take the vg-800 outputs with a hosa dual trs to single ts into the fractal input, that will work great

Then use the fx loop on the back for the fractal vp4 in stereo

I don't really need to use my aeros loop studio, as I haven't really been using it anyway, so I should be ok! :]
 
Input 1 will be from something (usually your guitar). Output 1 can be to your JBLs.

Input 2 can either be for your VP4 or your Aeros looper. Not both. At least not easily. However you could consider just running the looper after everything else.

Guitar > stuff > FM3 (with VP4 in the Out2/In2 loop) > looper > speakers
 
deadpool_25 said:
Input 1 will be from something (usually your guitar). Output 1 can be to your JBLs.

Input 2 can either be for your VP4 or your Aeros looper. Not both. At least not easily. However you could consider just running the looper after everything else.

Guitar > stuff > FM3 (with VP4 in the Out2/In2 loop) > looper > speakers
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but then i couldn't capture the looper in my daw, this is all for recording into computer
 
BROCKSTAR said:
Ugh, and this is why helix is more superior on this end when it comes to fx loops and UI and stuff lol.

I'll figure something out.

I think if i can run guitar -> vg-800 (with zoia and eventide h90 in vg800 fx loop) -> gm-800 and the vg out with a dual trs to ts cable into the input on fm3 that would work

Then I could do vp4 with spdif but i have never done that before or have the cables but i'll see about it

Then put aeros loop studio in the fx loop
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TBF, you’re comparing the flagship helix product to the smallest Fractal solution. The FM9 has 3 analog I/Os plus SPDIF. A little less than Helix floor but still extensive capabilities.

D
 
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