Fractal Audio Systems mystery product speculation

[Vic Winters]

Well, the "favourite" functionality is pretty weak IMO, simply because it's one global list, so you only see the type of block but not exactly what model you're using.

You can rename Favorites to whatever you want.

 

[Achilles]

I've never seen a rock band with a bunch of tablets up on stage.

Is does come across weird but thinking about it more I'm not sure why it should.
How much would a simple small stand detract with everything else going on?

 

[Vic Winters]

I guess someone does this. I've never seen a rock band with a bunch of tablets up on stage.

Many of them do it. They're just better at hiding it.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Btw, in all seriousness (and sorry for repeating myself because I've already said this a few times in the past), re: live tweaking. IMVHO, the lack of fast tweaking on pretty much all modelers is one of the reasons for them to often not sound as great as they could. Simply because there's just no time to adjust anything in a meaningful way.
As an example (yes, you may have read this coming from me before, too): Let's suppose you needetd to do something that be the most trivial tweak in a typical analog (or hybrid) setup, such as simply raising the level of your clean channel. How will you do it with just, say, 3 preprogrammed clean patches (all supposed to use the same basic amp sounds but different FX and what not, so you could possibly not squeeze them in a kitchen sink preset anymore)? Tweak the level of one. Re-save. Remember how much level you've added. Call up 2nd patch, adjust, re-save, call up 3rd patch, adjust, re-save. Soundcheck goes on, you may notice you've raised the level too much. Rinse and repeat. Oh, you only noticed it during the show? Well, that was it, no way to adjust these patches anymore. A typical amp setup would require one (!) single action, namely twisting your channel's level knob. You can even do that while a note/chord is ringing out. And you could as well even do it while another patch is selected, so before you switch back to your clean patch, the level is adjusted. Etc.

This is precisely where programmable modelers (and that's pretty much the whole lot of them) lose big time. Ways to fix it are global blocks, more encoders, LED rings and, well, touchscreens. Good luck finding any to combine all these. Closest contender: Boss GT-1000.

 

[Sascha Franck]

You can rename Favorites to whatever you want.

I am absolutely aware. Doesn't change anything with them being just one big list for all favourites.

 

[Elf]

Or maybe you wanted to post this @Elf ? https://www.fractalaudio.com/FM0

Your execution was so much better!

 

[jellodog]

I consider quite a few here more than just Avatars

Thank you $HUMAN_NAME, I appreciate it!

 

[Vic Winters]

Is does come across weird but thinking about it more I'm not sure why it should.
How much would a simple small stand detract with everything else going on?

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"Monitor" wedge.

 

[Lysander]

"Monitor" wedge.

So, he HAS gone digital!

 

[norminal]

"Monitor" wedge.

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WTF? Is he playing his way backwards?

 

[GTR37]

Edit has already proven that you can take all of the depth and complexity of the platform and boil it down into an easy to use interface. Edit literally shows you how it could work on a touchscreen. When you open the amp block in Edit it goes to the basic tab which is where 90% of editing occurs. Then Fractal has the advanced tabs grouped directly underneath it. (Ideal, Poweramp, Preamp etc) These already existing tabs would be pages in the block on a touchscreen. The QC has pages on their blocks. It’s literally a single tap to get to a 2nd or 3rd page of controls. Fractal could have the main basic tab open and then pages at the top for the advanced options. The Edit software and the QC literally show how this could be achieved without sacrificing any of the depth of controls or tweakability.

If people don’t want a TS that’s one thing, but to say that FAS is too complex for a TS at all is absurd.

Honestly I don’t think you need all those parameters
Cliff said himself he would like to simplify and just have a tweaks page that didn’t have a million parameters as some of them don’t even work depending on the model

But realistically a tweaks page w like 10 advanced parameters would probably be enough for most

 

[Achilles]

"Monitor" wedge.

Even without it.

Why is Joe using his wah backwards?

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

Even without it.

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He is playing the wah too!!!!

 

[BenIfin]

FWIW ...... I do all my FM3 editing via FM3 Edit and only ever touch the unit live to turn it on, adjust my Volume level and then adjust my Global EQ.

The Helix UI is brilliant for 2 reasons ..... (a) it is exceptionally well designed and laid out -and- (b) it has f$ck all deep Amp and EFX parameters to expose to the user on the unit itself.

I personally don't think there is any way to implement a much better or simpler UI for the Fractal gear as there are simply too many deep / important parameters to expose to the on-board UI.

Also ... imho ... if you are adjusting anything other than very basic Amp controls live .... G / B / M / T .... on your presets, you are on a road to no-where for that show .... it will only get worse with each adjustment you make.

After one song, your ears will very quickly adapt to whatever sound you have dialed in .... then just play and enjoy the show ... and entertain the people who are paying to be entertained.

For non-live use .... FM3 Edit is superbly easy to use .... so I kind of can't really see the problem ....... but w.t.f would I know.

Ben "dont touch my f%cking cup cakes" Ifin

 

[Achilles]

He is playing the wah too!!!!

Those boots.....

 

[Orvillain]

 

[DLC86]

I prefer to bend down

 

[Orvillain]

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

I once joined an organization, this is how I celebrated my initiation.....only substitute the shoe for an artificial leg ....yep....the good old days!!!!

 

[Whizzinby]

Honestly I don’t think you need all those parameters
Cliff said himself he would like to simplify and just have a tweaks page that didn’t have a million parameters as some of them don’t even work depending on the model

But realistically a tweaks page w like 10 advanced parameters would probably be enough for most

That’s an entirely different discussion.

My point is that Edit already groups advanced parameters in easy to understand tabs, which would translate easily to pages on a TS. We already have a proof of concept on the QC which uses pages. Fractal could work on a TS without any dumbing down or simplification required.