Fractal Audio Systems mystery product speculation

[Achilles]

Nah... here's hope for this:

I hear there's a half dozen versions of this classic.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Had one. And liked it...

I still have what is sorta the german equivalent:

Playing through it is downright horrible, but mic'ed up there's some almost gloriuos sounds to be had. One of the things I'd consider being "capture-worthy".

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

I hope it's not something like that personally. Not that it wouldn't be good, it's just a harder sell because it needs to be priced high enough for a good profit, but that would mean a very trimmed down offering. It's in that middle land of "well if I payed a little more I could get all of this over here..." And conversely, "if I pay a little less, I can get all of this over here..."

If I pay a LOT more, I’ll actually have a functioning rig with fairly limited capabilities that still isn’t a tube amp

 

[FuzzyAce]

I still have what is sorta the german equivalent:

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Playing through it is downright horrible, but mic'ed up there's some almost gloriuos sounds to be had. One of the things I'd consider being "capture-worthy".

Using something "ugly" to make "beauty" is an art in itself.

 

[holoholo]

ALLLLLLL these discussions are sooooo goddamn goldilocks it's not even funny.

 

[unix-guy]

Oh come on! You’re a beta tester and I’m betting you’ve had one of these, whatever this is!

I'm an FM9 beta tester only... Would be interesting to be involved, though.

 

[DLC86]

We were talking about the FM3.

I might have missed that part, I thought we were talking about running the same software on a dsp or on a consumer cpu

 

[DLC86]

Measured. Of course.



But we weren't talking about the NAM player (which is a most excellent thing from technical POV).
FAS devices and most other modelers are in the ballpark of 2-3ms. You can easily get that low with some interfaces, at 96kHz you could even get below 2ms pretty easily (of course that'll cause a big CPU hit).

You can get that low but depends on what's the cpu load to be usable... I need to try with Helix native

 

[GTR37]

Anyway, I just checked and these new AD chips are actually almost 10 times more powerful than those in the Helix, 24 GFLOPS per core vs 2.7.

https://www.analog.com/en/products/adsp-21837.html

The next generation of floor modelers will likely be way more powerful than what's currently available.

Anyway, I just checked and these new AD chips are actually almost 10 times more powerful than those in the Helix, 24 GFLOPS per core vs 2.7.

https://www.analog.com/en/products/adsp-21837.html

The next generation of floor modelers will likely be way more powerful than what's currently available.

Interesting I remember back in June this discussion and Cliff had chimed in that there were chips more than double the power of a Helix

 

[nicolasrivera]

I hear there's a half dozen versions of this classic.

 

[SpaceMan]

Heard over at TOP:

"Rumor is that Fractal seems to explore the same one amp in a pedal concept as well." (as UA)

So I guess it is the much anticipated Blues Jr in a box, finally!

No idea how reliable rumors are, but if it was a one amp block pedal that would make a lot more sense. I imagine a lot of people would love to just take the amp block in a pedal. Including all of the current amp models.

 

[Sascha Franck]

You can get that low but depends on what's the cpu load to be usable... I need to try with Helix native

At 96kHz I can still run two instances of fully loaded Helices on a single core at 32 samples buffersize. With an RME interface, latency would likely be quite a bit below 2ms.

 

[bigmenace]

Heard over at TOP:

"Rumor is that Fractal seems to explore the same one amp in a pedal concept as well." (as UA)

So I guess it is the much anticipated Blues Jr in a box, finally!

Finally, Katana in a pedal format

 

[GTR37]

No idea how reliable rumors are, but if it was a one amp block pedal that would make a lot more sense. I imagine a lot of people would love to just take the amp block in a pedal. Including all of the current amp models.

I can’t imagine that but maybe , that would seem to go against Fractals ultimate versatility
Plus would Andy Wood be making presets for an amp pedal?

 

[DLC86]

Interesting I remember back in June this discussion and Cliff had chimed in that there were chips more than double the power of a Helix

Yep, but he was talking about the previous models that were basically a higher clock frequency version (1 GHz) of those inside FMx and QC.
At the time he mentioned that something new was coming from Analog Devices and I think he was referring to these in the link I posted that came out recently.
Apparently they're based on a new architecture called Sharc-FX, even though that's still 1GHz it has more than double the GFLOPS of previous 1GHz Sharc cores.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

If you think Fractal makes dumb design choices with their gear, maybe stop reading a thread about a possible new Fractal product release...

 

[OrganicZed]

Andy Wood using the new Fractal mystery device starting at 19 minutes in:



"When it comes out, hopefully later this month, it will have my delay settings and chorus and stuff."

"All I can say is there it is and I'm an amp guy. Figure it out."

 

[Mongillo19]

Andy Wood using the new Fractal mystery device:

Not working if you are being legit did you see it?

 

[OrganicZed]

Not working if you are being legit did you see it?

Yes, it is legit. I'm trying to get the link working now. He talks about it at 19 minutes in.

 

[Mongillo19]

"I can't tell you what it is, but it is from Fractal and I'm an amp guy. Figure it out."

So effects only or loadbox seems to be the only options?

After watching has to be an effects only unit. I think the FM0 dream is dead unless he just uses it for effects only