First rule of capo club is..



The recorded version has a pronounced delay. Some people say that they had put delay even on the drums which were
recorded. I could be wrong.

This is his version without any effects. Of course, he is sting so he will always sound and play good.

Others who don't use effects try to sound at least 1% like him ("bland"?) in general.

I switch between clean and mild overdrive when I play any song. Try to "sound 1% like him" in the ballpark if I am covering this song :)
 


This is a version with capo.

Usually I play it without one though. Obviously I don't (read: can't) play it like him.
 
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It is nice to learn everyone's perspective.

People may have different opinions, and they are based on their experiences. Nobody is wrong.

I play some songs (covers) using capo because I had used a capo either when I learned it or interpreted the chords to suit my voice using a capo.

I have been effect-shamed by a guitar teacher after a gig ended (at a bar) because I have tried numerous times to incorporate pedals into my rig but have given up. I only have a tuner and 2 overdrive pedals.

He said he could understand the pressure of singing and playing guitar, so I should look for another guitarist who will play effect-laden parts. He had said that I sound bland.

I am aware of my limitations/ skill level. Inspite of being teary eyed, I just nodded when he said that. I know that he meant well, but I am not the superwoman superskilled guitarist he expects me to be. And it's ok.

Let's be like a family on here, and respect everyone's opinions. As I said, No one is wrong. Thank you for being helpful as always :)


You seem quite kind and reasonable.

I'd do what you do and follow your instincts and inclinations. You can play with a Capo,
or not. You can even put it in a different place than others do. Great arrangers and producers
are constantly shifting the key a song was originally recorded in and moving it to a new key
for a different feel or vibe.

There's really no rules... especially from those with narrow-minded preconceptions about
how we should play, and what tools we should or should not use.


:cheers
 
@newpedals Re that unsolicited advice that teacher gave you at your gig... I've learned in most situations like that, people mean well. Even when I don't like the way someone gave me criticism, I try to ignore that part, and hear what they're trying to tell me.

I've been out to clubs with musician buddies of mine, in which we all agreed about some aspect of the band's sound, maybe something like the guitarist not cutting through the mix. We all assumed the guitarist wasn't aware of it, but we said nothing, even though we thought some feedback would surely help them sound better. Why? Because none of us wanted to be "that guy."

I'm actually the opposite: I want feedback, good or bad. Especially bad, because those are things that I'm most likely not aware of, and usually, no one is willing to say anything. If it happens to be something I am aware of, and I disagree with, then I simply ignore it. And say "Thank you."


Back when I started out, whenever I took a solo, I would open my mouth really wide. I can only imagine how stupid I looked. :facepalm Finally our drummer told me. And told me I'd been doing it for some time. I was like, "WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME?"

They didn't want to hurt my feelings! :rofl Ok, but allowing me to continue looking like a fool was the better choice? :idk

So even if someone doesn't know you, and offers you some advice, even if they deliver it in a less-than-tactful manner, first off, it took guts to even say anything. And second, they were most likely just trying to help.

And at the end of the day, what musician out there doesn't honestly want other musicians to sound as good as they can? I believe it's also part of the reason we're all here too. :beer
 
... Musician's are given the freedom to rearrange the same chord to a diffrent voicing. Except maybe in classical music.
Yeah, man! That's what I'd argue with the worship leader at the church we used to go to. Honestly, he only gave me chord charts that I had to transpose anyway so I didn't see the issue. I was playing the right chords for the song. I just didn't use his capo and for some reason it was a major offense.
 
I remember back when I was doing it it felt like every single song was tons of reverb and delay and just drone 2 notes over the whole song. Rinse, repeat.

Musically I got tired of it really fast
It is a paying gig a lot of the time, I assume; isn't it?
 
@newpedals Re that unsolicited advice that teacher gave you at your gig... I've learned in most situations like that, people mean well. Even when I don't like the way someone gave me criticism, I try to ignore that part, and hear what they're trying to tell me.

I've been out to clubs with musician buddies of mine, in which we all agreed about some aspect of the band's sound, maybe something like the guitarist not cutting through the mix. We all assumed the guitarist wasn't aware of it, but we said nothing, even though we thought some feedback would surely help them sound better. Why? Because none of us wanted to be "that guy."

I'm actually the opposite: I want feedback, good or bad. Especially bad, because those are things that I'm most likely not aware of, and usually, no one is willing to say anything. If it happens to be something I am aware of, and I disagree with, then I simply ignore it. And say "Thank you."


Back when I started out, whenever I took a solo, I would open my mouth really wide. I can only imagine how stupid I looked. :facepalm Finally our drummer told me. And told me I'd been doing it for some time. I was like, "WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME?"

They didn't want to hurt my feelings! :rofl Ok, but allowing me to continue looking like a fool was the better choice? :idk

So even if someone doesn't know you, and offers you some advice, even if they deliver it in a less-than-tactful manner, first off, it took guts to even say anything. And second, they were most likely just trying to help.

And at the end of the day, what musician out there doesn't honestly want other musicians to sound as good as they can? I believe it's also part of the reason we're all here too. :beer

You have something stuck in your teeth. :hugitout



:rofl
 
It sounds very nice. I would play it a little diffrent. This voicing of the E add4 chord sounds good to my ear.

Might sound good, but hasn't got anything to do with the voicing I used. I mean, literally, nothing at all (apart from the same notes being used). Also, try to play the Dadd9 before and then this voicing. You won't be able to get a nice flowing movement.

Perhaps sounds a little diffrent

No, it sounds fundamentally different.

You prefer the capo version of a chord, I prefer a version without a capo.

'Again: This is not what this sub-discussion is about. It's all about "Can you play voicing XYZ without a capo?" And the clear answer is "no".
 
He's the MD. And you gotta follow suit. And in case he expects a certain open string voicing character, that's what you need to deliver.
I don’t think he knew if I was playing an open string voicing or just plunking the root. The drummer did though. He was the only other professional in the group. He’d call me out when i screwed around but the worship leader never did.
 
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First rule of the internet: Flamewar is the natural mode of communication. Generalize a little and a pedant will be on your tail about specifics: be specific and generalizers will be giving you grief.

I saw a YouTube with Tommy Emmanuel discussing a particular Chet Atkins tune, and Tommy thought “no capo. Not Chet!” so figured it out without one. When he met Chet and asked him about the tune, Chet said “Right! Capo 2nd fret!”
 
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