First rule of capo club is..

[JiveTurkey]

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The first rule of playing guitar club is don't play at church!

 

[HomespunEffects]

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The first rule of playing guitar club is don't play at church!

You ain't kidding, man. Way too much ego.

 

[JiveTurkey]

You ain't kidding, man. Way too much ego.

Plus silent stage ugh and playing songs that most likely would make me barf. Cover band ughs of my own hypocritically and duly noted.

 

[HomespunEffects]

Plus silent stage ugh and playing songs that most likely would make me barf. Cover band ughs of my own hypocritically and duly noted.

I never played silent stage but I did tire of the U2-ish genre.

 

[metropolis_4]

I never played silent stage but I did tire of the U2-ish genre.

I remember back when I was doing it it felt like every single song was tons of reverb and delay and just drone 2 notes over the whole song. Rinse, repeat.

Musically I got tired of it really fast

 

[JiveTurkey]

I remember back when I was doing it it felt like every single song was tons of reverb and delay and just drone 2 notes over the whole song. Rinse, repeat.

Musically I got tired of it really fast

It is a paying gig a lot of the time, I assume; isn't it?

 

[la szum]

@newpedals Re that unsolicited advice that teacher gave you at your gig... I've learned in most situations like that, people mean well. Even when I don't like the way someone gave me criticism, I try to ignore that part, and hear what they're trying to tell me.

I've been out to clubs with musician buddies of mine, in which we all agreed about some aspect of the band's sound, maybe something like the guitarist not cutting through the mix. We all assumed the guitarist wasn't aware of it, but we said nothing, even though we thought some feedback would surely help them sound better. Why? Because none of us wanted to be "that guy."

I'm actually the opposite: I want feedback, good or bad. Especially bad, because those are things that I'm most likely not aware of, and usually, no one is willing to say anything. If it happens to be something I am aware of, and I disagree with, then I simply ignore it. And say "Thank you."


Back when I started out, whenever I took a solo, I would open my mouth really wide. I can only imagine how stupid I looked. Finally our drummer told me. And told me I'd been doing it for some time. I was like, "WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME?"

They didn't want to hurt my feelings! Ok, but allowing me to continue looking like a fool was the better choice?

So even if someone doesn't know you, and offers you some advice, even if they deliver it in a less-than-tactful manner, first off, it took guts to even say anything. And second, they were most likely just trying to help.

And at the end of the day, what musician out there doesn't honestly want other musicians to sound as good as they can? I believe it's also part of the reason we're all here too.

You have something stuck in your teeth.

 

[la szum]

Way too much ego.

Why not.... when you know God has your back??

 

[metropolis_4]

It is a paying gig a lot of the time, I assume; isn't it?

Yeah, it usually is

 

[HomespunEffects]

It is a paying gig a lot of the time, I assume; isn't it?

Church gig was paying for everyone except me and one other guy. We protested taking money for worship and it kinda soured them towards us. *shrug*

 

[Sascha Franck]

It sounds very nice. I would play it a little diffrent. This voicing of the E add4 chord sounds good to my ear.

Might sound good, but hasn't got anything to do with the voicing I used. I mean, literally, nothing at all (apart from the same notes being used). Also, try to play the Dadd9 before and then this voicing. You won't be able to get a nice flowing movement.

Perhaps sounds a little diffrent

No, it sounds fundamentally different.

You prefer the capo version of a chord, I prefer a version without a capo.

'Again: This is not what this sub-discussion is about. It's all about "Can you play voicing XYZ without a capo?" And the clear answer is "no".

 

[Sascha Franck]

I just didn't use his capo and for some reason it was a major offense.

He's the MD. And you gotta follow suit. And in case he expects a certain open string voicing character, that's what you need to deliver.

 

[HomespunEffects]

He's the MD. And you gotta follow suit. And in case he expects a certain open string voicing character, that's what you need to deliver.

I don’t think he knew if I was playing an open string voicing or just plunking the root. The drummer did though. He was the only other professional in the group. He’d call me out when i screwed around but the worship leader never did.

 

[Aelred]

First rule of the internet: Flamewar is the natural mode of communication. Generalize a little and a pedant will be on your tail about specifics: be specific and generalizers will be giving you grief.

I saw a YouTube with Tommy Emmanuel discussing a particular Chet Atkins tune, and Tommy thought “no capo. Not Chet!” so figured it out without one. When he met Chet and asked him about the tune, Chet said “Right! Capo 2nd fret!”

 

[la szum]

First rule of the internet: Flamewar is the natural mode of communication. Generalize a little and a pedant will be on your tail about specifics: be specific and generalizers will be giving you grief.

I saw a YouTube with Tommy Emmanuel discussing a particular Chet Atkins tune, and Tommy thought “no capo. Not Chet!” so figured it out without one. When he met Chet and asked him about the tune, Chet said “Right! Capo 2nd fret!”

My uninformed knowledge has taken me a lifetime to acquire.

 

[JiveTurkey]

FIRST RULE OF HYPERBOLE CLUB

 

[la szum]

I thought paranoia was when you are finished with your woman, because she couldn't help you with your mind.

Among other things.

 

[duzie]

I thought paranoia was when you are finished with your woman, because she couldn't help you with your mind.

Among other things.

No man
Paranoia may destroy ya

 

[maguchi]

It sounds very nice. I would play it a little diffrent. This voicing of the E add4 chord sounds good to my ear.
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If it was my own composition, I would've wrote it this way originally and without a capo. If it was someone else's composition, and I was performing it as a cover I would rearrange it with this voicing of a EAdd4 chord. Perhaps sounds a little diffrent, however it works and sounds fine. Musician's are given the freedom to rearrange the same chord to a diffrent voicing. Except maybe in classical music.

We've been over this already, and we keep coming back to the same conclusion. You prefer the capo version of a chord, I prefer a version without a capo. Our reasons why are our own and not open to debate.

Cheers,
Magoo

Might sound good, but hasn't got anything to do with the voicing I used. I mean, literally, nothing at all (apart from the same notes being used). Also, try to play the Dadd9 before and then this voicing. You won't be able to get a nice flowing movement.

"Might sound good, but hasn't got anything to do with the voicing I used." Really? Not anything? That is an atypical perspective and maybe a bit presumptive that someone else would want to use the same voicing you used. "I mean, literally, nothing at all (apart from the same notes being used)." That is also an uncommon view, and kind of contradictory. The same notes is quite a lot and much more than nothing.

"Also, try to play the Dadd9 before and then this voicing. You won't be able to get a nice flowing movement." So now you're assigning me another chord to voice and asking me to combine it with the first chord? We've only just met and we don't really know each other that well.

With a little practice I can get a smooth flowing movement with these 2 chords.

No, it sounds fundamentally different.

Fundamentally different? That is an unconventional conclusion.

Again: This is not what this sub-discussion is about. It's all about "Can you play voicing XYZ without a capo?" And the clear answer is "no".

Sub discussion? The OP asked the question How often do you use a capo? Somewhere in the middle of this thread you started a sub discussion with me about not being able to play certain voicings of chords without a capo. And I responded with another sub discussion that I would voice those chords differently so that a capo would not be required. Because we are having so many sub discussions please respond with any further messages relating to our sub discussions on direct message to me and I will reply on direct message back to you. That way we won't burden the rest of the members on this thread with our circular argument.

Additional subdiscussion: It is not relevant to me whether or not certain chord voicings can only be played with a capo, because I don't play with a capo so that question is too far down on my list of priorities to consider.

you don't talk about capo club.

Seriously, how often do you use a capo?

Do you think those who use them often are not good guitar players?

I know it's kind of a cliche.

I don't use it often but sometimes I need to use a capo.

 

[newpedals]

I remember back when I was doing it it felt like every single song was tons of reverb and delay and just drone 2 notes over the whole song. Rinse, repeat.

Musically I got tired of it really fast

I don't understand the weird obsession some very good guitarists have with delay either. They don't really need it. I confess that I am kinda jealous because I don't use it. But I like to hear others when they are using it as an effect.

Many local players I have seen who are much better guitarists than I am have an always on delay. Some also have a second delay pedal which they step on while soloing.

I enjoy seeing live looping, I admire guitarists who can do it. I can't. It's completely different than playing with an always on delay. It's much more challenging.

I believe different chord voicings (open strings or by using a capo) come handy when someone is playing with themselves using a looper.