Fender Tone Master Pro: Episode IV - A New Hope

[metropolis_4]

I think at this point the QC is the only big modeler without gapless presets

 

[Jarick]

I think at this point the QC is the only big modeler without gapless presets

Doesn’t Stadium have a pretty big gap? At least in normal mode (not sure if it has the same gapless option).

 

[metropolis_4]

Doesn’t Stadium have a pretty big gap? At least in normal mode (not sure if it has the same gapless option).

To be honest, I haven’t been following Stadium so I’m not sure. I guess I assumed since Helix does it probably does as well?

 

[Jarick]

To be honest, I haven’t been following Stadium so I’m not sure. I guess I assumed since Helix does it probably does as well?

In one of the demo videos from WT there was a pretty noticeable gap. That may have been due to a pre release firmware though. But they were even laughing and calling it out.

 

[JiveTurkey]

There is a preset gap currently. Still early days.

 

[metropolis_4]

There is a preset gap currently. Still early days.

That’s really surprising…

 

[Tritium3H]

Perhaps some Fractal power user can correct me, if I am wrong, but I believe there are caveats/constraints in the Fractal AX3/FM9/FM3 ecosystem, if you “enable” gapless preset switching.

In other words, I believe there is some trade-offs, in which a full-blown “everything and the kitchen sink” grid/preset requires some forethought and planning if you want to achieve a gapless preset switch, while still maintaining delay and reverb spillover.

 

[Frodebro]

Perhaps some Fractal power user can correct me, if I am wrong, but I believe there are caveats/constraints in the Fractal AX3/FM9/FM3 ecosystem, if you “enable” gapless preset switching.

In other words, I believe there is some trade-offs, in which a full-blown “everything and the kitchen sink” grid/preset requires some forethought and planning if you want to achieve a gapless preset switch, while still maintaining delay and reverb spillover.

I don’t honestly remember what the trade off is, if anything. Maybe a slight CPU hit, but I haven’t noticed any significant performance change.

 

[OrganicZed]

Perhaps some Fractal power user can correct me, if I am wrong, but I believe there are caveats/constraints in the Fractal AX3/FM9/FM3 ecosystem, if you “enable” gapless preset switching.

In other words, I believe there is some trade-offs, in which a full-blown “everything and the kitchen sink” grid/preset requires some forethought and planning if you want to achieve a gapless preset switch, while still maintaining delay and reverb spillover.

It eats about 2% of CPU and you’ll have the best results if your delay and reverb types match in the two presets.

 

[ChordInversion]

I'm finally doing it - throwing my TMP on Craigslist and Reverb in the next few days and parting ways with it. My FM9T may follow, with the plan to be to go to an AM4 and a Stadium. I might even sell my GT-1000CORE, as I have X-Crunch in the IR-2.

 

[mikah912]

I'm finally doing it - throwing my TMP on Craigslist and Reverb in the next few days and parting ways with it. My FM9T may follow, with the plan to be to go to an AM4 and a Stadium. I might even sell my GT-1000CORE, as I have X-Crunch in the IR-2.

Good for you, man.

I know you'd been tossing back and forth, and waited through a couple of firmware updates to give Fender a chance to answer your concerns.

Great part of this gear thing is that nothing is forever if you don't want it to be. Maybe you circle back around in a few years when you find it has plenty of vintage Fenders and even lower resale value to get you a great deal.

I still think it's a pretty good piece of gear, but they have their work cut out if they wanna remain competitive at that price point.

 

[Jarick]

I went test driving a used Deluxe Tone Master again today. Thinking about trading in my Orange Rocker 15 + 1x12 for it as I never use those. Probably wouldn't use the Deluxe TM either though but it's more practical. Super light weight, no noise or hum, sounds good at low volumes, just a real nice basic amp.

Also played a few other tube amps including a Super Sonic 22 and proper tube Deluxe Reverb. Both sounded nice but had tons of additional noise and hum. Not to mention the volume wasn't anywhere close to practical for home use.

 

[ChordInversion]

Good for you, man.

I know you'd been tossing back and forth, and waited through a couple of firmware updates to give Fender a chance to answer your concerns.

Great part of this gear thing is that nothing is forever if you don't want it to be. Maybe you circle back around in a few years when you find it has plenty of vintage Fenders and even lower resale value to get you a great deal.

I still think it's a pretty good piece of gear, but they have their work cut out if they wanna remain competitive at that price point.

I also think it's pretty good. Great for some players. It's just not for me. I have different priorities from what Fender has shown so far, and I don't have any trouble learning a piece of gear.

 

[metropolis_4]

I went test driving a used Deluxe Tone Master again today. Thinking about trading in my Orange Rocker 15 + 1x12 for it as I never use those. Probably wouldn't use the Deluxe TM either though but it's more practical. Super light weight, no noise or hum, sounds good at low volumes, just a real nice basic amp.

Also played a few other tube amps including a Super Sonic 22 and proper tube Deluxe Reverb. Both sounded nice but had tons of additional noise and hum. Not to mention the volume wasn't anywhere close to practical for home use.

My TMP actually led me down the path back to amps. I started realizing I always just used the Princeton TMP model for everything and I started to think it would make more sense to just have a Princeton TM amp and real pedals.

That way I could use the actual pedals I want (that sound better than the models) and I would have the option of using it like an amp instead of only having the direct option.

Which led to me thinking if I’m gonna go with an amp I might as well go with the kind of amps I like best, which happen to be tube (Vox, Matchless, Bad Cat, Dr Z, /13)

 

[spawnofthesith]

I’m watching the Umphreys McGee livestream, Jake has been using the tone master pro for a bit, initially I believe he was just going direct but visually it appears that he also has dual hot rod deluxes on stage? No mic on either so presumably just for stage volume

Seems like an odd shift for all the crazy boutique stuff he used to use. Historically he always used G&L guitars and was about to have an sig before they went under. I’m wondering if he signed some deal with fender because he’s been rocking a dope tele lately as well… entire signal chain all fender



edit: I think it’s actually a pair of the fender FRFRs

 

[Chocol8]

edit: I think it’s actually a pair of the fender FRFRs

I was going to say the FRFR-12’s look a lot like an HRD! Like just a tiny bit shorter but that would be real hard to spot when they are not side by side.

 

[Jarick]

I was really close to trading in some gear for a Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb over the last couple weeks but one fell through and the other I just punted on. I'm still very intrigued by it.

But hooked up the Fender TMP into the TM FR-12 and it's one hell of a nice sounding rig. Nice thing with this speaker cab is it kind of smooths over the rough edges of the cab block so you spend less time fussing with it. Running mono makes you look at building a rig differently too.

 

[DrewJD82]

Last week when I was cruising GC’s site I saw they had a TMP at one of them and made a note to give it a shot when I got to the store, alas it wasn’t there when I went. I’ve still yet to see one in person, which is kind of strange as I have 3 GC’s within a 20 minute stretch I regularly hit up.