Fender Tone Master Pro: Episode IV - A New Hope
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[Nathan]
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This is the latest model guide
https://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/Original/10102/OM_2274900000_Tone-Master-Pro-Model-Guide-F_EN.pdf
A bit strange to get there you have to open the normal manual and inside that manual there's a link to this second guide, but this is the direct link from there. The quality of their manuals is very nice and well laid out.
Thank you! That's a fantastic guide - kudos to Fender.
I hope L6 does something similar and provides tidbits on the amps that they model.
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First real hiccup - I noticed that my audio signal was cutting in and out. I think it’s related to maxing out the DSP as I had two amps and a lot of effects. Rebooted and same thing. Removed one amp and seemed to improve. Swapped to the Axe 3 and no issues.
Couldn’t find anything on Google so I’ll have to check out their discord perhaps.
Couldn’t find anything on Google so I’ll have to check out their discord perhaps.
ChordInversion
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Someone else reported that on the discord as well recently. It would probably help with diagnosing to have another report.
AlbertA
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I like real Blues Juniors - you just have to mod them a little bit so they don't chew up the tubes (install a bias trim pot) and maybe replace the input jack.
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Less gain on that dialog mic. Holy lip noises Batman. Flicky flicky.
ChordInversion
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I played through mine for a couple of hours just now. It is a good modeler. There will be an update before Thanksgiving, and I'm guardedly hopeful that they'll add in more amps to engage my experimentation impulse.
Jarick
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Trying to think of stuff I’d like to see in an update…
65 Bassman
Matchless DC30
Two Rock or Dumble style
Mesa Mark V or VII
Greer Lightspeed
Precision Drive
Stereo 2299 Delay
Stereo SDE 3000 Delay
Couple more reverb options would be nice
Functionality like dry pass through mix on some of the effects like delays
65 Bassman
Matchless DC30
Two Rock or Dumble style
Mesa Mark V or VII
Greer Lightspeed
Precision Drive
Stereo 2299 Delay
Stereo SDE 3000 Delay
Couple more reverb options would be nice
Functionality like dry pass through mix on some of the effects like delays
Jarick
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Just hooked up the Fender TMP with my Friedman JJ Junior. Works flawlessly to control the amp! Don't even need a special cable.
Running the effects loop send to the front of the amp, then into a Suhr reactive load, then into the effects return. I use an IR in the TMP. Then I ran a standard 1/4 mono cable from the Amp Control jack to the Footswitch jack on the back of the amp. Added a footswitch assignment on a switch and it was already set up exactly how it was needed. Instant and gapless amp channel switching plus all the pre-effects and stereo post-effects.
Running the effects loop send to the front of the amp, then into a Suhr reactive load, then into the effects return. I use an IR in the TMP. Then I ran a standard 1/4 mono cable from the Amp Control jack to the Footswitch jack on the back of the amp. Added a footswitch assignment on a switch and it was already set up exactly how it was needed. Instant and gapless amp channel switching plus all the pre-effects and stereo post-effects.
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V1.7 has been released: https://support.fender.com/en-us/knowledgebase/article/KA-02068
Updated model guide: https://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/Original/10128/OM_2274900000_Tone-Master-Pro-Model-Guide-G_EN.pdf
New amps:
Updated model guide: https://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/Original/10128/OM_2274900000_Tone-Master-Pro-Model-Guide-G_EN.pdf
New amps:
- Diezel VH4 channel 3 => Petrol
- Hiwatt DR105 => Hiwy 105
- Fender Bassman TV
- Fender '65 Twin Reverb Blonde
- pre-amp section of SDD-3000 delay => SDD-Boost
- Xotic EP Booster => XO Boost
- Boss Blues Driver => Sapphire Drive
- Hermida Audio Zendrive => Namaste Drive
Jarick
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AWESOME update!
Love that they fixed the Micro Pitch adjustment. Love that IR settings will be kept when browsing as that was real annoying.
Some fun new stuff to play with too...character boosts are always nice. I really wanted a Blues Driver so cool to be able to mess with that. Stereo Lexicon delay will also be really fun.
Love that they fixed the Micro Pitch adjustment. Love that IR settings will be kept when browsing as that was real annoying.
Some fun new stuff to play with too...character boosts are always nice. I really wanted a Blues Driver so cool to be able to mess with that. Stereo Lexicon delay will also be really fun.
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For all its real and/or perceived flaws, the poly synth effects and convolution reverbs give the TMP some really unique selling points that none of the other modelers can (currently) compete on. For my needs, if I didn't go FM9, then the TMP would be a strong consideration as it covers the basic amp sounds I like, the effects are very appealing, and I'm not that picky about the IR thing. I know I'd run into some of the routing limitations and interface things, but as far as "basic things I'd actually use every day", it covers them pretty well.
Jarick
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I’ve still used it 90% of the time over my Axe 3 a couple months on. Most of the time if I switch back to fractal or Kemper it’s to see if I’m missing anything. I’m really not.
Maybe it’s just ideal for my workflow. I keep it setup on a side table and I can easily adjust or setup anything I need in seconds. No computer editor.
I’ve run my Friedman JJ Junior through a load box into the fender for effects and it sounds great but the amp isn’t noticeably better sonically. Same thing with the IRX. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze so I just run models.
Maybe I’m not running the right null tests and haven’t analyzed waveforms properly or my ears are shot past 15k. I keep trying to hear why it’s so much worse than fractal but I can’t find it.
The only real sonic complaint I have is some distortion on edge of breakup tones that seems too loud. The infamous helix squirrels I think. I hooked up my Friedman JJ through a load box and cranked the clean channel. It does the exact same thing. Clean at first then a warble of distortion the ln back to clean. The only difference is the TMP distortion is a bit louder or more apparent. But I’m comparing a clean channel from a high gain el84 amp to a Princeton model.
I’ve had dms with people who also can’t figure out the hype on fractal stuff. We’re all stubborn trying to make it work because everyone says it’s so clearly better. A lot of people don’t like to post publicly on this stuff because it invites a shit storm.
I’m not even saying fractal is bad by any stretch. Again I’ve had the axe fx 3 since 2019 and still have it. If I sell it I will probably only do so to get an fm3 or next gen. If they made a more compact desktop version with a touch screen I might try that with a foot controller.
That’s my 10 cents anyway. The UI and ease of finding sounds without tweaking is extremely high to me and I don’t feel I’m giving up on sonic quality in the process.
Maybe it’s just ideal for my workflow. I keep it setup on a side table and I can easily adjust or setup anything I need in seconds. No computer editor.
I’ve run my Friedman JJ Junior through a load box into the fender for effects and it sounds great but the amp isn’t noticeably better sonically. Same thing with the IRX. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze so I just run models.
Maybe I’m not running the right null tests and haven’t analyzed waveforms properly or my ears are shot past 15k. I keep trying to hear why it’s so much worse than fractal but I can’t find it.
The only real sonic complaint I have is some distortion on edge of breakup tones that seems too loud. The infamous helix squirrels I think. I hooked up my Friedman JJ through a load box and cranked the clean channel. It does the exact same thing. Clean at first then a warble of distortion the ln back to clean. The only difference is the TMP distortion is a bit louder or more apparent. But I’m comparing a clean channel from a high gain el84 amp to a Princeton model.
I’ve had dms with people who also can’t figure out the hype on fractal stuff. We’re all stubborn trying to make it work because everyone says it’s so clearly better. A lot of people don’t like to post publicly on this stuff because it invites a shit storm.
I’m not even saying fractal is bad by any stretch. Again I’ve had the axe fx 3 since 2019 and still have it. If I sell it I will probably only do so to get an fm3 or next gen. If they made a more compact desktop version with a touch screen I might try that with a foot controller.
That’s my 10 cents anyway. The UI and ease of finding sounds without tweaking is extremely high to me and I don’t feel I’m giving up on sonic quality in the process.
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I really do think it's individual, which should probably give us all pause when reading someone insist X or Y is "best." I've had both for a long time now, and I find my FM9T much more satisfying to use than my TMP, in large part due to what I see as the latter's extremely spare selection of amps. Some don't care about that at all, and I certainly am not going to insist that they have to care about it. I also find that the FM9T sounds better when comparing apples to apples (especially on dry amps), though the difference is subtle, not the chasm that some fanboy types would have you believe.
To me, no device is all that hard to use once I learn it. So it comes down to feature set and function. The TMP has a lot of features that appeal to a lot of people. The latest update certainly positions the TMP as a leader in the guitar synth space, for instance, and they do love adding new delays and reverbs. It's definitely a good choice for some people. Just not for me, at least not yet. For me, it's a practice rig, which probably means I should sell it. When I want to create, I go to the FM9T first, because I find it less limiting and more suited to my process.
The TMP's big calling card out of the gate was the skeuomorphic interface, which included knobs for in-amp effects like reverb. They've done next to nothing to leverage that since, because the amp additions have been a slow trickle spread out over everything including bass amps. And they stopped being committed to the skeuomorphic representation almost immediately - the Vibro-King never got in-amp effect controls. Fanboys on the Discord will say you can just use the outboard effects, and some may be very happy doing it that way, but that was never the point when they were first touting the interface.
Anyway, I don't think it's going to fade from the market or anything. From what I've seen (including here), it still gets less talk than other high end modelers on every forum and social media platform. Fender seems very disinterested in marketing it hard. But it's got a dedicated set of fans, and the most recent update is likely to expand that a bit.
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