EVH Hypersonic (version of the FR12)

[ian_dissonance]

Are we that offended by the silly name that can be covered or taken off? At least it doesn’t look like a fucking Fender amp.

Immediately raised my interest and I’ve been looking non-"FRFR" speakers all week.

 

[BenIfin]

He just means the power amp rating matches the speaker, IIUC.

Precisely. The "1000w" thing is meaningless.

 

[paisleywookiee]

^ This

It wont make you play Steely Dan covers

But you can. If you want. You just need the right patch.

 

[Lysander]

The speaker is stamped 150w / 8 ohm .... like all speakers it will handle short bursts above that but regular levels above that wont be good.

Thats why the Class D Amp is 300w @ 4ohms and 150w @ 8 ohms.

I'm willing to bet the FR-212 uses the exact same power amp as the FR-10/12, with two of the exact same speakers wired in parallel.

 

[deadpool_25]

It will be neat to see if they redesigned the preamp. Flat should be noon, no noise.

Don't be silly

 

[paisleywookiee]

I'm willing to bet the FR-212 uses the exact same power amp as the FR-10/12, with two of the exact same speakers wired in parallel.

If it’s in parallel, then it’s a 4ohm load, so full 300w. So quite a bit louder, I’d imagine.

 

[pipelineaudio]

And sounds like shit with a modeler.

What special magical power does a modeler have that doesn't work well with flat? I have yet to run into a flat speaker that doesn't sound good with a modeler. Turbosounds sound the same as the rest of them, just better off axis and louder than the usual suspects.

 

[GuitarBilly74]

This is interesting. Looks better for my style than the Fender version.
Are these things loud enough to play with a drummer? Or are they just for home playing?

 

[paisleywookiee]

What special magical power does a modeler have that doesn't work well with flat? I have yet to run into a flat speaker that doesn't sound good with a modeler. Turbosounds sound the same as the rest of them, just better off axis and louder than the usual suspects.

Huh? Modelers don’t have a special magical power. The Turbosounds are fine, but they sounded sterile and disconnected with modelers I’ve tried through them. Probably has a digital crossover in it.

 

[Lysander]

If it’s in parallel, then it’s a 4ohm load, so full 300w. So quite a bit louder, I’d imagine.

tl;dr, it... depends It will likely be louder due to a number of factors, but not 2x a FR-10/12. You can think the FR-212 as effectively a 150w amp driving a speaker twice the surface area of the normal FR-12.

Funnily enough, Fender quotes the max SPL for the FR-212 at 133 dB, vs 130 dB for the FR-10/12.

 

[paisleywookiee]

tl;dr, it... depends. It will likely be louder due to a number of factors, but not twice as much as the FR-10/12. You can think the FR-212 as effectively a 150w amp driving a speaker twice the surface area of the normal FR-12.

Funnily enough, Fender quotes the max SPL for the FR-212 at 133 dB, vs 130 dB for the FR-10/12.

Legend has it that if you look into the mirror and say decibel three times, Jay Mitchell will appear behind you, and risk infractions and citations to discuss decibels

 

[ian_dissonance]

tl;dr, it... depends It will likely be louder due to a number of factors, but not 2x a FR-10/12. You can think the FR-212 as effectively a 150w amp driving a speaker twice the surface area of the normal FR-12.

Funnily enough, Fender quotes the max SPL for the FR-212 at 133 dB, vs 130 dB for the FR-10/12.

I’m waiting for the ground plane whatever the fuck explanation to know how loud it ACTUALLY is.

 

[GTR37]

Legend has it that if you look into the mirror and say decibel three times, Jay Mitchell will appear behind you, and risk infractions and citations to discuss decibels

oh crap you said his name , that's 7 more years of Farfield Ir discussion

 

[timbuck3]

EVH - 5150 III Hypersonic FR-12 Powered Speaker - Ivory

EVH - 5150 III Hypersonic FR-12 Powered Speaker - Ivory

www.long-mcquade.com

900$…

 

[deadpool_25]

This is interesting. Looks better for my style than the Fender version.
Are these things loud enough to play with a drummer? Or are they just for home playing?

The Fender versions get very loud. In general I'd say they get loud enough to play with a drummer, but a number of factors could change that depending on your situation.

 

[Jarick]

What special magical power does a modeler have that doesn't work well with flat? I have yet to run into a flat speaker that doesn't sound good with a modeler. Turbosounds sound the same as the rest of them, just better off axis and louder than the usual suspects.

No speaker is truly flat. The ones that overemphasize treble or deep bass tend to sound really bad, as well as the V shaped scooped ones. I’m thinking of the cheap PA speakers and small studio monitors.

 

[mbenigni]

This is interesting. Looks better for my style than the Fender version.
Are these things loud enough to play with a drummer? Or are they just for home playing?

What drummer? What venue? What genre? Etc.

Perhaps a liability that anyone who'd prefer this styling and branding over the FR12's is more likely to be playing music (e.g. hard rock or metal) that would demand more power. Meanwhile, the two products are functionally equivalent?

As for the $879 price tag, I can't imagine it holding at that price. Once it's on shelves for a while and guitarists start to realize it doesn't actually have anything to do with EVH, it should wind up at a street price (or blowout price) more or less on par with the FR12. Sorry, I'm confused now. It's $879 CDN? So apparently already the same price as an FR12, give or take?

 

[Stone]

What drummer? What venue? What genre? Etc.

Perhaps a liability that anyone who'd prefer this styling and branding over the FR12's is more likely to be playing music (e.g. hard rock or metal) that would demand more power. Meanwhile, the two products are functionally equivalent?

As for the $879 price tag, I can't imagine it holding at that price. Once it's on shelves for a while and guitarists start to realize it doesn't actually have anything to do with EVH, it should wind up at a street price (or blowout price) more or less on par with the FR12. Sorry, I'm confused now. It's $879 CDN? So apparently already the same price as an FR12, give or take?

30 Bucks More not really a deal breaker, provided you can remove the Hypersonic badge lol

 

[mbenigni]

30 Bucks More not really a deal breaker, provided you can remove the Hypersonic badge lol

$30 bucks more is actually a bargain for the cool white tolex and black grillcloth IMO. That said...

Personally, I'd take the HYPERSONIC and the EVH badge off. Love Eddie and all, but again, he has absolutely fuck all to do with this product. (And even less so if it's me playing through this product.)

"The EVH 5150 is one of the least crappy models in our ToneMaster Pro, and you could conceivably run the ToneMaster Pro into this cabinet, therefore it's an EVH cabinet (that is no in way, shape, or form comparable to anything EVH himself would ever have used.)" Are we really doing this?

 

[Stone]

$30 bucks more is actually a bargain for the cool white tolex and black grillcloth IMO. That said...

Personally, I'd take the HYPERSONIC and the EVH badge off. Love Eddie and all, but again, he has absolutely fuck all to do with this product. (And even less so if it's me playing through this product.)

"The EVH 5150 is one of the least crappy models in our ToneMaster Pro, and you could conceivably run the ToneMaster Pro into this cabinet, therefore it's an EVH cabinet (that is no in way, shape, or form comparable to anything EVH himself would ever have used.)" Are we really doing this?

Agree 100% it is marketing after all and 100% has nothing to do with EVH at all, I doubt EVH even knew about guitar "FRFR" lol
But i would not remove the EVH logo as well as ya'all know I love EVH