Anyone else getting sick of GAS?

[Shredder777]

People are bowel.

When you buy the midi switcher, its another $500. Might as well just try to find a used JP2C or VII. I think thats why they have lost value.

 

[deadpool_25]

You = The Worst.

 

[deadpool_25]

When you buy the midi switcher, its another $500. Might as well just try to find a used JP2C or VII. I think thats why they have lost value.

What's worse is if I get another amp I'd 100% also get a VP4.

 

[Rock Chalk]

After nearly 10 years of digital modelling, I've come to the conclusion that it has not been good for either my enjoyment of guitar or my development as a musician. Having endless scope to try different amps with different micromanaged configurations and different IRs was fun and addictive, but it ultimately sucked the soul out of playing for me.

Looking at it now, I find nothing remotely appealing about a digital modeller and FR-FR speakers. These days I plug into nice small 112 tube amps, I turn them up a level so they're loud in the room and I use my Helix as a multi-effects pedal for drives, delay, etc. And I find myself being way happier.

There's no compulsion to tweak, there's no compulsion to adjust, and I never arrive at the conclusion that either the amp or the IR just sound wrong or off somehow. And how could it? The experience is entirely authentic.

Looking at a Supro Keeley or a Fender Deluxe Reverb or a Vox AC-15, there's something real and organic I’m them in a way that an FR-FR will never have. I Probably should have realised this a long time ago, but authenticity and simplicity are far more enjoyable than flexibility and endless options.

Doesn't sound like the modeler was the problem..........

 

[timbuck3]

The price doesn't concern me much. I know it will sound great. I'm not sold on how it operates and what fx it will have at release is not known. That's why I need to see more.

I am not happy he wants to charge for future effects and amps but it is what it is

 

[Orvillain]

Doesn't sound like the modeler was the problem..........

Erm... well no. It sounds exactly like the modeller was the problem.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Erm... well no. It sounds exactly like the modeller was the problem.

OR he was using the wrong IR.

 

[Rock Chalk]

Erm... well no. It sounds exactly like the modeller was the problem.

The modeler made me do it........I swear!!......

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

It’s a personality trait. Some people might be better suited for modelers or for just an amp.

I am seriously a bit proud I have not tweaked anything for a week now.

 

[jay mitchell]

And then back to the modeler?

Or one of my other tube amps. At bedroom levels, there are a number of signal processing/amplification solutions that work much better for my purposes than a DR.

 

[jay mitchell]

But a deluxe can go other places a twin cannot.

And vice versa. A Twin can do loud and clean simultaneously. A DR cannot. Not even close. For that matter, a Twin can do (very) loud and dirty, which a DR cannot. It's been several decades since I had occasion to exploit that capacity, however.

 

[jay mitchell]

After nearly 10 years of digital modelling, I've come to the conclusion that it has not been good for either my enjoyment of guitar or my development as a musician. Having endless scope to try different amps with different micromanaged configurations and different IRs was fun and addictive, but it ultimately sucked the soul out of playing for me.

That's a personal, not an equipment, problem. Word to the wise: you probably don't want to acquire a large collection of amps, cabs, and guitars. You would then "have endless scope to try different" amps, guitars, cabs, and combinations thereof. You might never recover. Just sayin'....

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

So the way I read it, even at low volumes (1-2) a Deluxe Reverb in the room sounds better than any modeler ever can via studio monitors and I should get it

 

[Orvillain]

That's a personal, not an equipment, problem.

Nobody even said it was a problem. It just 'is'.

Just because you guys all love modellers, doesn't mean everyone has to.

Just because some of us love our amps, doesn't mean everyone has to.

etc etc etc.

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

What is actually the buyer demographic for modelers?

Is it recording folks? Gigging?

Or the same demographic as “normal” amps?

@Orvillain … for some reason I am quoting you while I am not

 

[Rock Chalk]

Just because you guys all love modellers, doesn't mean everyone has to.

Nobody said that.

The point is, just because there are a million things to tweak doesn't mean you have to. If someone can't help themself from it, the
modeler is not the problem.

 

[jay mitchell]

Nobody even said it was a problem. It just 'is'.

Maybe you didn't bother to read the quote I replied to: "I've come to the conclusion that it has not been good for either my enjoyment of guitar or my development as a musician....it ultimately sucked the soul out of playing for me." Or are you trying to say that the person I quoted was not describing a problem?

Just because you guys all love modellers, doesn't mean everyone has to.

Who said anything about loving modelers? FYI, some - but apparently not all - of us recognize that our amplification and signal processing gear are just tools to do a job and don't get emotionally involved with them.

 

[Sleezy E]

Yeah so today I was in store and I found my balls back. So I said “I want to play THAT and THAT… but not to loud because I am scared”.

The Strat felt so good. And the Deluxe was lovely. Almost bought it but you guys didn’t respond quick enough.

;-)

Buy it because YOU like how it sounds... not what someone else tells you how it sounds.

You don't (and shouldn't) need the internets permission.

 

[PLX]

Buy it because YOU like how it sounds... not what someone else tells you how it sounds.

You don't (and shouldn't) need the internets permission.

You're making a whole lot of sense.

 

[Orvillain]

Or are you trying to say that the person I quoted was not describing a problem?

He was describing a corpus of experiences across a 10 year timespan. No. He was not describing a problem.

In your haste to emphasise certain sections of his comment (which I did indeed read, three times now) you've missed the forest for the trees.