Anyone else getting sick of GAS?

[Sleezy E]

5 minutes later..

 

[Orvillain]

The first TGFest you two are getting thrown in a kiddie pool full of jello, pudding and pickle juice and neither of you are coming out until you love each other.

That's not funny. My great grandfather died in a pool full of jello whilst wrestling with kids.

 

[DrewJD82]

That's not funny. My great grandfather died in a pool full of jello whilst wrestling with kids.

Doesn't sound very "great" for a grandfather if he wasn't smart enough for a snorkel.

 

[la szum]

The biggest thing is the speaker besides getting the power section working harder. A lot of speakers need a good amount of volume to open up, unless you get an older one or one with a very low sensitivity rating.

Seldom understood point.

It's why 4 x 12s can sound like ass.... until you get some wattage moving them coils.

I like to think of speakers like amps---get the right ones and quantity to match the
room and venue you are playing in. I think there is an ideal for every situation. Sometimes
it is a 1 x 10. Sometimes it is a 4 x 12. Though I seldom go more than 2 x 12 or dual 1 x 12s
these days.

 

[la szum]

There is/was a Mark V90 for 1500 locally. Probably gone now, but people are dumping them.

In related news, people are dumb and will live lives of deep regret in the future.

 

[PLX]

In related news, people are dumb and will live lives of deep regret in the future.

"Most men lead lives of quiet desperation."

-- Ted Nugent

 

[la szum]

"Wang dang sweet poontang."

~~Henry David Thoreau

 

[PLX]

"Wang dang sweet poontang."

~~Henry David Thoreau

 

[KFF]

Paraphrasing a quote that always cracked me up:

I knew that one day I was going to do die. And before I died, two things would happen to me...

That number one: I would regret my entire life.
And number two: I would want to live it all over again.

Go GAS Go!

 

[Jarick]

I'm gonna take issue with that. The DR sim in the Amplifire is one of the most realistic among several excellent sims in the box. The Alessandro I had for awhile was the actual physical amp that Marc Gallo had used as his reference in finalizing the model. The far field IR I shared ca. 2019 came from that cab and speaker (which Eminence makes OEM for Alessandro). I also have IRs from an original AB763 DR cab with its original Jensen 12. Although I much prefer the Jensen IR, the Amplifire DR sim with the Alessandro IR played through one of my monitors - or any suitably transparent speaker - is an incredibly good match for the physical amp/speaker. FYI, a critical piece of making a reference comparison is matching volumes. Whatever the volume you need for the amp to get a particular sound, you will need to play the modeler/monitor at the same volume. Once you've gotten a suitable match, you can (obviously) play the modeler at a lower or higher volume. It won't sound identical, but the difference is due to your hearing, not to any tonal shift in the equipment.

Totally agree. Modelers nowadays with the right IR and the right speaker at the same volume will often be extremely close and far more versatile.

I said elsewhere, but I was on the verge of buying a Deluxe Reverb Tone Master several weeks ago. Unfortunately the attenuator steps were either whisper quiet or loud conversation, and there was a gap in the middle where I normally play. The amp sounded awesome clean at low volume, like a Deluxe Reverb, but I'd be locked into that one tone.

I ended up grabbing a Fender FR-12 and that particular cab with any modeler I run into it sounds really great at all kinds of different volumes with all kinds of different tones.

@mercifulfuzziness I may even be inclined to look at something like a UAD Clean 65 into a Fender FR-12 as a Deluxe Reverb alternative. It would be half the price of a new tube model and would scale really well at different volumes.

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

Totally agree. Modelers nowadays with the right IR and the right speaker at the same volume will often be extremely close and far more versatile.

I said elsewhere, but I was on the verge of buying a Deluxe Reverb Tone Master several weeks ago. Unfortunately the attenuator steps were either whisper quiet or loud conversation, and there was a gap in the middle where I normally play. The amp sounded awesome clean at low volume, like a Deluxe Reverb, but I'd be locked into that one tone.

I ended up grabbing a Fender FR-12 and that particular cab with any modeler I run into it sounds really great at all kinds of different volumes with all kinds of different tones.

@mercifulfuzziness I may even be inclined to look at something like a UAD Clean 65 into a Fender FR-12 as a Deluxe Reverb alternative. It would be half the price of a new tube model and would scale really well at different volumes.

I like the creativity. Let’s say we put the gain and master in the helix reverb at 2-3? Would that transfer to how a fender deluxe would soind on 2-3?

Of course no amp in the room… ! But that is not a big issue for now :)

 

[FuzzyAce]

That's not funny. My great grandfather died in a pool full of jello whilst wrestling with kids.

 

[FuzzyAce]

I think there is an ideal for every situation. Sometimes
it is a 1 x 10. Sometimes it is a 4 x 12. Though I seldom go more than 2 x 12 or dual 1 x 12s
these days.

Or even 2x8.
It's one of my favorite cabs in a small room. 2 Eminence 820H hemp speakers.
Clean, bouncy, smokey, solid lows, all without knocking you out. Records well too.

 

[Jarick]

I like the creativity. Let’s say we put the gain and master in the helix reverb at 2-3? Would that transfer to how a fender deluxe would soind on 2-3?

Of course no amp in the room… ! But that is not a big issue for now :)

Depends on how you are monitoring...

If you are running the Helix into a power amp and then into a 1x12 open back cab with a Jensen, it will sound pretty close to a Deluxe Reverb in the room. If you mic up a Deluxe Reverb and go listen back in the control room through monitors and compare to a Helix running direct with a 1x12 Deluxe IR, it will sound pretty close.

What are you trying to do with the modeler? Record with it, play live, or mostly at home?

Having gone through tons of different playback systems, for home use at lower volumes especially, the Fender FR-12 is my absolute favorite option.

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

Depends on how you are monitoring...

If you are running the Helix into a power amp and then into a 1x12 open back cab with a Jensen, it will sound pretty close to a Deluxe Reverb in the room. If you mic up a Deluxe Reverb and go listen back in the control room through monitors and compare to a Helix running direct with a 1x12 Deluxe IR, it will sound pretty close.

What are you trying to do with the modeler? Record with it, play live, or mostly at home?

Having gone through tons of different playback systems, for home use at lower volumes especially, the Fender FR-12 is my absolute favorite option.

100% home use and some jam sessions here and there.

Thanks!

 

[MirrorProfiles]

10,000 ads a day, and worst of all that doesn’t surprise me one bit. Blimey.

 

[Rock Chalk]

That's not funny. My great grandfather died in a pool full of jello whilst wrestling with kids.

Must have run out of wiggle room........

 

[Dave Lewis]

I almost bought a guitar on Christmas Day in the sales but didn’t because there were three to choose from and I couldn’t make my mind up

 

[Mikael Dez]

I almost bought a guitar on Christmas Day in the sales but didn’t because there were three to choose from and I couldn’t make my mind up
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That’s a sign, I said to myself

 

[Jynx]

I never really had GAS in the first place. Settled on the second modeller I bought.

I don't understand people selling and flipping all the time. And then selling again to go back and buy something they flipped previously. Only to flip it again.

So much effort.