Anybody else getting sick of modellers?

[Sleezy E]

To be fair the patch I set up was perfectly usable, don’t get me wrong, I know how to dial in a tone just fine.

It was just a lot easier and less time consuming and annoying to just use the amp, which ended up sounding better anyway.

That's what I don't get.

My live patches are set. I plug it in and turn it on.

Can't get any less "time consuming" than that.

But if you're preferring amps, go for it

 

[fiftyshadesofslay]

Well I’m assuming your live patches were made once upon a time? Unless you’re sticking to factory presets

 

[Mongillo19]

I'm having too much fun with a big pedalboard going into a Twin model in the AxeFx.

Any pics of said pedalboard

 

[Sleezy E]

Well I’m assuming your live patches were made once upon a time? Unless you’re sticking to factory presets

They get tweaked at rehearsal (at full volume, with the band) over time, like I said.

Not before a show.

 

[Achilles]

 

[The Gh0sT]

I don’t have a “favorite” amp, so I definitely need a modeler to completely change my tone from time to time.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I don’t have a “favorite” amp, so I definitely need a modeler to completely change my tone from time to time.

...until I go and slap the same IR I use on everything on the preset and I go right back to sounding the same

 

[metropolis_4]

Sure it is, which is why that guy is off to jump in his Bristol M1

 

[TubeStack]

You will soon find that you need a huge pedalboard with expensive pedals too.

Or just get a Helix/FM9 for effects and be done with it.

 

[fiftyshadesofslay]

They get tweaked at rehearsal (at full volume, with the band) over time, like I said.

Not before a show.

That’s not my point, I can make a live preset, I know how it works.

My point is it’s a pain in the arse and time consuming to make them compared to just using an amp.

It doesn’t matter if they were made in 2019 and tweaked at rehearsal for evermore or if they were made during line check 5 minutes before show time.

 

[Sleezy E]

That’s not my point, I can make a live preset, I know how it works.

My point is it’s a pain in the arse and time consuming to make them compared to just using an amp.

It doesn’t matter if they were made in 2019 and tweaked at rehearsal for evermore or if they were made during line check 5 minutes before show time.

...but if you made one that sounded great, you could use it over and over without tweaking it. That's the beauty of digital. Repeatability.

Again, If your tube amps sound better than your presets, then use what works for you

 

[sleewell]

Is it that they have to be lighter or save time or be easier or more convenient or whatever? Is it possible to just view them the same and treat them same?


I use my helix basically as a pedal board that has amp sims and effects into the fx return of a 5153 into a 4x12. Not exactly saving a bunch of weight or trips loading gear or time or even a huge benefit over pedals... I just like it more and I still have all my pedals and have A/B'd them several times within the same exact rig to compare evenly.


Everyone always says it's not the device... it's how you hear it. More speakers and tubes are almost always going to be better.


I think lots of times people try to make comparisons and change too many other variables so they use false data to arrive at the wrong conclusions.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I thought the QC was the fastest and easiest to tweak?

 

[fiftyshadesofslay]

I thought the QC was the fastest and easiest to tweak?

If I was messing with a Fractal device yesterday I would have quit music altogether

 

[the swede]

Y’all wrong!!! It’s all about maths!!! It’s about:
*Boot up time
*power efficiency
*Latency

That’s what matters I’ve been told by a dude on “the other place”. He said everything else is taste and therefore not debatable.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Y’all wrong!!! It’s all about maths!!! It’s about:
*Boot up time
*power efficiency
*Latency

That’s what matters I’ve been told by a dude on “the other place”. He said everything else is taste and therefore not debatable.

 

[Orvillain]

Modellers and fleshlights are bore-ing.

 

[jay mitchell]

What did you have for breakfast this morning? That's every bit as relevant as saying you're sick of modelers (which really means you're sick of the sounds you get from your modelers).

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

Modellers and fleshlights are bore-ing.

I don't think you're using them right...swap them and see if that helps.

 

[dk_ace]

You have a dual rec. You were playing a gig where it was acceptable to play a dual rec. WTF were you doing screwing with a modeler?

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