Anybody else getting sick of modellers?

[Sedaxel]

I'm leaning towards this too.

Problem is when you want your EVM12L to be on stage...

Size, gravity and weight seem to be best in terms of live playing experience. Damm!

 

[Achilles]

2010: Line 6 POD XT
... back to amps
2015: Fractal AX8
... back to amps
2018: Kemper Toaster
... back to amps
2022: Neural QC
... back to amps
2024: Tonex
... back to amps

 

[laxu]

I'm honestly not missing mine too much after selling all my hardware units. I don't mind that my pedalboard, amp and cabs are much more fixed and limited because the tones are great.

At the same time, I don't miss 20+ kg tube amps either.

 

[Orvillain]

It’s the end result that counts.
Gain differences are easily caused by settings in a chain,,,and easily compensated…so a non issue.
I didn’t notice any differences in the highs.

I never said it was an issue, but clearly you could hear a difference, otherwise even a minor tweak wouldn't have been required.

For you it is the end result that counts. So it is for myself and the OP.

But that isn't what the topic of discussion is when we talk about hearing differences or not. That is a question of objective data, and thus something that can be measured; hence Sascha's quip about graphs.

If you enjoy it. More power to you. But as soon as you try to claim that it sounds the same a real valve amp (without providing evidence I might add), there will always be some wanker like me who will pop up to make a fuss about it. Such is life.

 

[Orvillain]

The bigger point of discussion here is ... how fucking amazedicks is the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier?? About twelve bags of fucking amazedicks. That's how amazedicks it is.

 

[metropolis_4]

I get it. I’m also in the “amps were so much easier” phase right now.

1. Amps were so much easier!
2. Sell digital gear and buy amp
3. Amp rigs are so expensive and complicated! I have to buy so many pieces and build such a big rig to cover everything.
4. Digital was so much easier!
5. Sell amp rig and buy digital
6. Digital rigs take so long to dial in! They don’t sound as good, they’re not as fun to play and I have to figure out how to hear myself.
7. Back to step #1
8. Repeat

 

[fiftyshadesofslay]

The bigger point of discussion here is ... how fucking amazedicks is the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier?? About twelve bags of fucking amazedicks. That's how amazedicks it is.

It’s fucking killer! And I’ve got the internets most hated version, still sounds like it’s got big balls to me

 

[Achilles]

And I’ve got the internets most hated version.

??

 

[GTR37]

I actually felt the opposite
I used a blackstar tube amp at the rehearsal hall last week and honestly thought man I miss my Axe fx
I mean it was a Blackstar but the clean felt flat and sterile and the Drive channel was decent but nothing that made me too excited maybe a Boogie would have been a different story

 

[Achilles]

I mean it was a Blackstar.......

 

[MirrorProfiles]

modelling is a compromise. sometimes it doesn’t matter, sometimes the compromises make more sense.

Amps are steak. Modelling is the ethical vegan alternative that makes you an annoying bore.

or

Amps are cinema, modelling is watching youtube on your phone.

I use both, and probably modelling at least as much as real amps. But real amps sound better, are more fun, less faff, cooler, more interesting, more exciting.

 

[fiftyshadesofslay]

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Noooo, I don’t use amps suitable for children only

 

[the swede]

Yeah. I’m done with modelers. My run was -18 to -23. Tried mixing it with pedals now and then but was mostly 100% HX. For me it wasn’t about sounds or feel. I just miss being limited to using a few simple specific things and being creative with that. So I’m back to pedals, but this time no real amp. Haven’t decided yet, but leaning towards an amp sim pedal of sorts.

 

[GTR37]

Yeah. I’m done with modelers. My run was -18 to -23. Tried mixing it with pedals now and then but was mostly 100% HX. For me it wasn’t about sounds or feel. I just miss being limited to using a few simple specific things and being creative with that. So I’m back to pedals, but this time no real amp. Haven’t decided yet, but leaning towards an amp sim pedal of sorts.

If your going that route maybe check out the Freidman IRx or Blug stuff

 

[GTR37]

It’s all they had and I thought hey this will work,
But playing covers I prefer the Fractal honestly something like the VH Unchained flanger is so easy with the FAS

 

[metropolis_4]

the clean felt flat and sterile and the Drive channel was decent but nothing that made me too excited

In other words it sounded like a Blackstar

 

[GTR37]

In other words it sounded like a Blackstar

Hey lots of people use em
Doug Aldrich was touring with em and I am no Doug Aldrich
So I figured why not

 

[Sleezy E]

Spent a bit of time sorting out my QC rig beforehand ready for the show.

I often wonder if this is the culprit..

The few live patches I use hardly ever change, and if they do.. it's at rehearsal.

Setting up a patch just before a show is a recipe for disaster, imho.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Played a reunion gig with my (very old) metal band last night.

Spent a bit of time sorting out my QC rig beforehand ready for the show. Tried a bunch of amps in there, sounded pretty good. Also a few decent captures.

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter what rig you're going to be using. If the thought process is "Hey, I've got a gig coming up, I should try out a whole bunch of amps to figure out which one I'll use" then the amp that you've used extensively prior to the gig is always going to win out.

 

[fiftyshadesofslay]

To be fair the patch I set up was perfectly usable, don’t get me wrong, I know how to dial in a tone just fine.

It was just a lot easier and less time consuming and annoying to just use the amp, which ended up sounding better anyway.