A lot of people will disagree with my hardware modeler ranking

[Los-D]

 

[paisleywookiee]

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That dude gave it his all.

 

[norminal]

 

[paisleywookiee]

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Who knew that Jeff Daniels was such a comedic talent?

 

[dean701]

This pic goes on the bench for later....so

 

[holoholo]

The current Helix Core modeling engine is from November 2022. It was further improved in November 2023. There will be further tweaks to the underlying engine this fall. Anyone implying Helix's engine is from 2015 hasn't been paying attention.

I just looked up the firmware updates on those release dates and was surprised you mentioned those ones - 3.50 and 3.7 are primarily the big cab updates right? Was the amp modeling updated as well?

Surprised you didn’t mention the oversampling firmware update.

 

[mbenigni]

Is there a dresses forum though where they compare quality of materials and Zip up times

Do people say this is what I would do and throw out dress designs and shoe improvements

I’m willing to bet there is, and they do.

 

[laxu]

Is there a dresses forum though where they compare quality of materials and Zip up times

Do people say this is what I would do and throw out dress designs and shoe improvements

Not sure about dresses, but for zippers it's basically YKK zippers and everything else is lesser stuff. A bit over a decade ago I bought a few custom made leather jackets so I learned about this sort of thing.

 

[Orvillain]

You're getting shafted on that lonely island of yours. €969 over here, translating to £815

Still massively overpriced for how shite it sounds. I had one of those side-by-side with the Kemper and Axe FX III too. Couldn't get a good sound out of the Boss at all when it came to high-gain chugga stuff. Also I think they nickel and dime you on the effects side of things. Just a very poor value proposition overall.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Still massively overpriced for how shite it sounds. I had one of those side-by-side with the Kemper and Axe FX III too. Couldn't get a good sound out of the Boss at all when it came to high-gain chugga stuff. Also I think they nickel and dime you on the effects side of things. Just a very poor value proposition overall.

Well, very likely I'll buy one in a few weeks anyway. Just to offend everyone round these parts.

 

[Orvillain]

Well, very likely I'll buy one in a few weeks anyway. Just to offend everyone round these parts.

Have fun!! My opinion aint worth shit ultimately, do your thing.

 

[the swede]

def calls for a Dawson to lighten up the mood!

 

[Jarick]

Well, very likely I'll buy one in a few weeks anyway. Just to offend everyone round these parts.

I’ve had the Boss GT 1000 a few times and I’m still half tempted to get an ME 90 or GX 100 to see how it is running with a tube amp…

 

[Sascha Franck]

My opinion aint worth shit ultimately, do your thing.

I actually value your opinion quite sometimes. But in this case, my needs simply are quite special. And no other unit seems to be suited as well as the GT to adress certain things.

Namely:
- Form factor. Just excellent. Lightweight (in comparison), EXP pedal onboard while still being smaller than an FM9 and just as big as a Kemper Stage (which are the only other contenders, no way I'll buy a Helix Floor again, sold it for a reason).
- Live-ready display (/cue reasons to sell the HX Floor...).
- Mobile editor. None of the others have that.
- Global blocks. Dito, the others just don't have that functionality (Kemper Stage might work utilizing the parameter lock function, though).
- Tried and trusted Boss hardware quality.
- Super low latency, allowing me to use the loops without worrying, even in case I slap a digital unit into them.
- And because of that, I will as well be able to easily use it in a somewhat expanded setup, too, effectively replacing an external loop switcher.

These are enough reasons for me to make it the best all-in-one solution for some certain kind of gigs that seem to be coming up. In the first place I need something suitcase/backpack friendly offering a proper amount of switches and sufficient output options. Could use my Stomp board for one particular gig I have in mind, but it'd fail once things get a little more elaborated or need more instant tweaking.

Also, I assume same phenomena, when you play 3rds on a the G and B string, there’s a clearly audible exaggeration of a sound an octave below.

Gonna keep an eye (err, ear...) on it, should I get the thing (which, as said, I consider to be very likely).

 

[TubeStack]

I had the GT1000 and it was great in 4cm. I didn’t try the amp models. Form factor is fantastic.

 

[Foxmeister]

You're getting shafted on that lonely island of yours. €969 over here, translating to £815

You can get it from Thomann UK for £829...

 

[Sascha Franck]

B stock for 889 at Bax shop in the Netherlands, your in DE right?

Yeah, but Bax is getting pretty popular over here. Thanks for the reminder.
Will buy second hand, though, there's plenty of them around, going for 600-700 (often with a case or bag thrown in). And unlike with some others, I'd have no fear buying a used unit. As said, Boss stuff is made to last.

It's actually quite weird. After all these years I might end up using the modeler typically connotated less than shiny.
But then, this is pretty much exclusively going to be a live unit. And for any live situation, once the sound is something I can deal with, plenty of other things (see above) become vastly more important for me.
Fwiw, just recently I played some gigs with my rusty GT-10 (admittedly running it through an AMT Pangaea IR loader) and it's been much more fun than I had expected. Wouldn't play a heavy gig with it, but otherwise, I couldn't think of much it wouldn't be sufficient for.

 

[the swede]

I actually value your opinion quite sometimes. But in this case, my needs simply are quite special. And no other unit seems to be suited as well as the GT to adress certain things.

Namely:
- Form factor. Just excellent. Lightweight (in comparison), EXP pedal onboard while still being smaller than an FM9 and just as big as a Kemper Stage (which are the only other contenders, no way I'll buy a Helix Floor again, sold it for a reason).
- Live-ready display (/cue reasons to sell the HX Floor...).
- Mobile editor. None of the others have that.
- Global blocks. Dito, the others just don't have that functionality (Kemper Stage might work utilizing the parameter lock function, though).
- Tried and trusted Boss hardware quality.
- Super low latency, allowing me to use the loops without worrying, even in case I slap a digital unit into them.
- And because of that, I will as well be able to easily use it in a somewhat expanded setup, too, effectively replacing an external loop switcher.

These are enough reasons for me to make it the best all-in-one solution for some certain kind of gigs that seem to be coming up. In the first place I need something suitcase/backpack friendly offering a proper amount of switches and sufficient output options. Could use my Stomp board for one particular gig I have in mind, but it'd fail once things get a little more elaborated or need more instant tweaking.



Gonna keep an eye (err, ear...) on it, should I get the thing (which, as said, I consider to be very likely).

Core with a Stomp in its fx loop would be a killer small setup.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Core with a Stomp in its fx loop would be a killer small setup.

Nah. No pedal. Two devices to edit. Etc. If anything, I'd possibly slap my Amplifirebox into the loop and use the Kornfield or Plexi.

 

[Frodebro]

Kemper's architecture seems to lend itself to being nearly completely immune to tone changes when the firmware is updated. The architecture is only part of it though. Part of it is the company philosophy. When new delays were introduced, the old ones were still there untouched. Same for other features. When improvements to the capture were introduced, it didn't effect the captures you already had in your setup. As a result, I have never had a tonal change from a firmware update .... and I have owned the Kemper since 2013.

It may be that the difference between a "modeler" and a "profiler" may make this easier for Kemper to do; however, it seems to me that Fractal doesn't expend much effort to prevent tonal changes in existing setups. It almost seems the opposite in some cases. I have a few friends that are running the Axe III Fx that have expressed their frustration that they can't get bug fixes and new features without re-setup of their gig rig. 2 of the 3 guys I know that have the Axe have 2 of them so they update one and then use the un-updated one as a reference when they update.

Again, it is a valid concern if you use your rig to gig with and maintaining specific tones is important to you across your setup.

The reality of it is that Christoph said quite a while ago that there was little he could do to improve upon the profiling aspect of the Kemper, so chances are that he has focused his attention on other areas of the unit. I’ve had mine since 2014, so I lived through all of the updates to the delays and reverbs & various other improvements. It’s still a great sounding unit, and if I had a bit more flexibility as far as signal chains and such it would still be my daily driver.