A lot of people will disagree with my hardware modeler ranking

likitlikeyoulikeit said:
Am I the only entity on the internet that reads all caps as screaming at the top of one's lungs?

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OneEng said:
I think it is pretty myopic to believe that there is a single device that is "Best" in every situation.
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Exactly.
I only brought up versioning as it is a personal pain point for me and for those not privy to the ecosystem, they now know about it. I don't expect it to be important to everyone and in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't top my list either.
Others will have their list of must haves be it button count, button functionality, amp authenticity. Effects, effects routing...it goes on and on.

But for the record, tuning 1000 presets at this pace made me power down my FAS stuff and buy a TMP. Off to upgrade my Fm9 to v8, 😀

December 1st 2023- fw23.04
December 5th - fw23.05
December 21st - fw24.01
December 29th - fw24.02
December 29th - fw24.03
January 16th 2024 - fw24.04
February 2nd - fw24.05
April 9th - fw25.0
April 15th - fw25.01
May 2nd - fw25.02
May 24th - fw25.03
May 30th - fw25.04
June 28th - fw26.0
July 26th - fw26.01
Aug 30th** - fw27
 
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dean701 said:
Exactly.
I only brought up versioning as it is a personal pain point for me and for those not privy to the ecosystem, they now know about it. I don't expect it to be important to everyone and in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't top my list either.
Others will have their list of must haves be it button count, button functionality, amp authenticity. Effects, effects routing...it goes on and on.

But for the record, tuning 1000 presets at this pace made me power down my FAS stuff and buy a TMP. Off to upgrade my Fm9 to v8, 😀

December 1st 2023- fw23.04
December 5th - fw23.05
December 21st - fw24.01
December 29th - fw24.02
December 29th - fw24.03
January 16th 2024 - fw24.04
February 2nd - fw24.05
April 9th - fw25.0
April 15th - fw25.01
May 2nd - fw25.02
May 24th - fw25.03
May 30th - fw25.04
June 28th - fw26.0
July 26th - fw26.01
Aug 30th** - fw27
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“But, but, but you don’t HAVE to update!” 😂
 
norminal said:
“But, but, but you don’t HAVE to update!” 😂
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Lol. I won't for a while. Maybe in December or so. I'm very happy with my sounds right now but they keep enticing me with the stealth dyna cabs and the Friedman 1x12 sic.
The 1x12 sic is great on fw25 but it just came out on fm9-v8
 
OneEng said:
This is the core of my argument about the validity of the review (for those that can still remember that this is what the thread was about in the first place). The reviewers stated that this set of digital amps were "the best" without stating what they were "the best" at doing.
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I think the disconnect is that the video isn’t that serious, and it does make it very clear that those were the three of the ones GuitarJon owns that they felt were best for them—and they do explain why they prefer those, and a potential buyer who is using the video as a guide can listen to those points and decide how they apply to their own needs and preferences.

I’m guessing that this sort of disconnect is why GuitarJon didn’t just post the ranking in written form, which takes it out of context.
 
dean701 said:
Exactly.
I only brought up versioning as it is a personal pain point for me and for those not privy to the ecosystem, they now know about it. I don't expect it to be important to everyone and in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't top my list either.
Others will have their list of must haves be it button count, button functionality, amp authenticity. Effects, effects routing...it goes on and on.

But for the record, tuning 1000 presets at this pace made me power down my FAS stuff and buy a TMP. Off to upgrade my Fm9 to v8, 😀

December 1st 2023- fw23.04
December 5th - fw23.05
December 21st - fw24.01
December 29th - fw24.02
December 29th - fw24.03
January 16th 2024 - fw24.04
February 2nd - fw24.05
April 9th - fw25.0
April 15th - fw25.01
May 2nd - fw25.02
May 24th - fw25.03
May 30th - fw25.04
June 28th - fw26.0
July 26th - fw26.01
Aug 30th** - fw27
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How dare Fractal give you that many free updates in that timeframe.......I don't blame you for moving to a TMP!.......
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GuitarJon said:
Wow, I didn't get any notifications for a few days. I have a lot of catching up to do!
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You’ve been on guitar digital modeler forums for a decent amount of time over the last recent years so you should have read this stuff already many, many, many times.
 
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dean701 said:
Exactly.
I only brought up versioning as it is a personal pain point for me and for those not privy to the ecosystem, they now know about it. I don't expect it to be important to everyone and in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't top my list either.
Others will have their list of must haves be it button count, button functionality, amp authenticity. Effects, effects routing...it goes on and on.

But for the record, tuning 1000 presets at this pace made me power down my FAS stuff and buy a TMP. Off to upgrade my Fm9 to v8, 😀

December 1st 2023- fw23.04
December 5th - fw23.05
December 21st - fw24.01
December 29th - fw24.02
December 29th - fw24.03
January 16th 2024 - fw24.04
February 2nd - fw24.05
April 9th - fw25.0
April 15th - fw25.01
May 2nd - fw25.02
May 24th - fw25.03
May 30th - fw25.04
June 28th - fw26.0
July 26th - fw26.01
Aug 30th** - fw27
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Kemper's architecture seems to lend itself to being nearly completely immune to tone changes when the firmware is updated. The architecture is only part of it though. Part of it is the company philosophy. When new delays were introduced, the old ones were still there untouched. Same for other features. When improvements to the capture were introduced, it didn't effect the captures you already had in your setup. As a result, I have never had a tonal change from a firmware update .... and I have owned the Kemper since 2013.

It may be that the difference between a "modeler" and a "profiler" may make this easier for Kemper to do; however, it seems to me that Fractal doesn't expend much effort to prevent tonal changes in existing setups. It almost seems the opposite in some cases. I have a few friends that are running the Axe III Fx that have expressed their frustration that they can't get bug fixes and new features without re-setup of their gig rig. 2 of the 3 guys I know that have the Axe have 2 of them so they update one and then use the un-updated one as a reference when they update.

Again, it is a valid concern if you use your rig to gig with and maintaining specific tones is important to you across your setup.
 
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