With tools like the VP4 and HX Effects, why have there been no modern advancements in 4CM cabling tech?

[HomespunEffects]

Yep, I definitely came across like an asshole last night! I'm afraid I had a few too many Dark & Spookies and the let the snark get away from me. I apologize, sincerely. @HomespunEffects

What? No challenge to meet in the parking lot? This place is lame.

But thanks.

 

[paisleywookiee]

What? No challenge to meet in the parking lot? This place is lame.

But thanks.

This is the ONLY site where people have actually acknowledged and apologized for their behavior, having a bad day, etc. I think that's a great thing, really. We're all human.

 

[HomespunEffects]

This is the ONLY site where people have actually acknowledged and apologized for their behavior, having a bad day, etc. I think that's a great thing, really. We're all human.

There’s another with civil people. But it’s a different topic, not music related.

I was also having a bad day up there and i also apologize for getting all butt-hurt.

 

[Shredder777]

My solution has always been three 1/4 in cables zip tied together every 18" or so. Then a second version of that as a back up. Leave the ends with enough cable to plug in and go. Easier to manage IMHO, than a loom.

If a cable fails, cut the zip ties and replace. I like the idea of the snake, but if you have an internal connection failure, it's more expensive to replace.

Having a break out box makes sense in a rack. If you don't have a rack it's another thing to think about and worry about.

I had done that once, but the zip ties, if you cut away the excess, are actually quite sharp and difficult to handle!

A better way to do this is with velcro wraps. They cost a little more, but aren't sharp and they can be reversed.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I had done that once, but the zip ties, if you cut away the excess, are actually quite sharp and difficult to handle!

A better way to do this is with velcro wraps. They cost a little more, but aren't sharp and they can be reversed.

Poking your finger with a sharp edged ziptie is actually super painful

 

[Shredder777]

Poking your finger with a sharp edged ziptie is actually super painful

I think the conclusion I came to was it was stupid to make your own snake with zip ties, just better to just buy an actual snake and not use 4 of the connections. Just duct tape them out of the way.

 

[sleewell]

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I use one of these. It is small, and means I don't need lifted cables.

Humbuster cables (TRS>TS cables really) don't solve the problem by itself. I have to use one of these as well. It works fine, costs pittance, and really isn't a huge overhead to deal with.

thanks for posting this. where do you place it in the chain?

 

[TubeStack]

(Still using zip ties... have just learned how to wrap them and not get hurt.)

 

[Orvillain]

thanks for posting this. where do you place it in the chain?

Before the input to the guitar amp, or the Axe3 out to the amp FX return.

 

[EOengineer]

The biggest demon I’m fighting right now in the 4cm paradigm is latency. We rehearse silently and even though we’re using a lightning fast quantum thunderbolt interface for monitoring out of the box, multiple stages of conversion for the pre loop + post loop + monitoring converter add up and things start to feel loosey goosey.

That pretty makes going wireless on the guitar side or the monitor side almost impossible.

I try to stick with a single conversion stage if I can - which usually means full modeling OR full analog.

I imagine the audio over network option adds even more latency.