What's preventing you from getting a Helix Stadium (if you really want to buy it eventually)?

[timbuck3]

Nope, I am not kidding. I absolutely love it. Plus, it helps that I know Ali Larter personally.

Like her character would ever be with stinky out of shape chain smoker like Tommy… lol. And the daughter in real life is like 30

 

[BenIfin]

the whataboutism is dumb. People keep bringing up axe II to axe III as some reasonable point of comparison. As if nobody remembers just how shit the axe Fx II screen and user interface were. Truly shit, hot garbage. We won’t even talk about the Ax8. The vast majority of hardcore Fractal users had reason to upgrade JUST for the screen improvement.

Helix is already super great in terms of hardware and UI and functionality. It’s not that surprising there are more folks looking at the new gen there and saying “actually, I’m okay on the OG”.

The Axe IV will likely be near or at $3k. There is no way they can improve the UI to the point that the bulk of threads on it don’t immediately turn into “three grand and it’s still like programming a VCR from 1987?!?!?”

And at that price point it’s going to be a special subset of fractal fanbois that are willing AND able to make the upgrade immediately.

It was a joke / attempt at light hearted humor ... period

 

[BenIfin]

It’s a forum it really ain’t that serious.

Off you go then. Shut the door on your way out.

Yep. No need for you to stick around.

Ditto

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

totally fair views ... Don't take it too seriously

In fairness and less serious than lords n' ladies...have we seen you around on forums before?

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

It was a joke / attempt at light hearted humor ... period

Sorry - I thought red was your "guuuuuuuys, I'm super super serious now!" color.

 

[OneEng]

Only if reverb and delay are the things that matter most to you, in which case...I'd wonder why you'd consider buying any flagship multi-effects unit when Fractal and Line 6 will happily just sell you hardware for their effects.

They aren't the things that matter a lot to me (and certainly lots of others). Good gig workflow and good amp tone are also very important.

If Line 6 want a spot at the top of the food chain, they will inevitably be compared to others at the top. It just makes sense.

Before anyone gets their panties all in a bunch (God forbid anyone should say that the new Stadium is anything less than the 2nd coming!), Stadium is quite good, and best-in-class in many things. It's still fair to compare it today to other things that exist today in the state that Stadium exists today. It's also OK to point out that it is just an infant and it will grow over time; however, that doesn't make comparisons of how it is NOW incorrect.

I think in this day and age 20, 2627 people are just tightening their pocketbooks in general
I see a lot less frivolous spending at least from people around me
But then again, some people around me I spend money like it’s going out of style

I think there is lots of truth in this. I keep hearing about how great everything is, but lots of people aint feelin it. There are lots of people thinking of battening down the hatches and settling in for a long hard haul.

Kinda makes a 2K guitar processor seem kind of out there for lots of people (most?).

 

[BenIfin]

Sorry - I thought red was your "guuuuuuuys, I'm super super serious now!" color.

No need to apologize :)

I'm the color / bolding / italicizing / re-sizing / underlining / all at the same time etc.... "king" around here.

I want to stop but I just **cant**

 

[mikah912]

They aren't the things that matter a lot to me (and certainly lots of others). Good gig workflow and good amp tone are also very important.

If Line 6 want a spot at the top of the food chain, they will inevitably be compared to others at the top. It just makes sense.

Before anyone gets their panties all in a bunch (God forbid anyone should say that the new Stadium is anything less than the 2nd coming!), Stadium is quite good, and best-in-class in many things. It's still fair to compare it today to other things that exist today in the state that Stadium exists today. It's also OK to point out that it is just an infant and it will grow over time; however, that doesn't make comparisons of how it is NOW incorrect.

Brother, if someone saying anything less than complimentary about Line 6 or Stadium raised my blood pressure even an iota, this forum would've sent me into the great big Stadium in the sky a long time ago.

And to be clear, I 9 million percent agree that Kemper's reverbs and delays were incredible when I owned it and also way more varied than even the current lineup of such in Stadium.

It's just.....that's about the only thing I miss about it. And so yeah, I consider Stadium to be a considerable step up in pretty much every other aspect than reverbs and delays. But it's still a great piece of kit, and I could gig one if I had to, no problem.