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Oh i dont know about that I'm really struggling get the main Solo :mad:
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Not sure how you go about learning stuff, but I’m making a LOT of use of the half speed feature on YouTube. I wanted to learn as much of Cliffs by ear as possible and man, I wish I had that when I was a kid. What’s tripping you up, that descending pattern?
 
All of these new fangled "rolled" edges on fretboards are dancing with danger for just the reason you describe.

Vintage correct boards/necks were not rolled, were they? But I guess modern baby hands can't tolerate any "edges." :LOL:

I kid.


Curious about your thoughts on this topic @Eagle . :idk

Rolled edges is having the edge of the fingerboard rolled over a bit as if it’s been worn from playing, that’s not the issue, the guy just went too hard with a fret end file, or probably didn’t use an actual fret end file and free handed it-

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As a result, the high E is basically coming down right where the fret end is sloping down and unless I’m careful, it’s just slips off.
 
making a LOT of use of the half speed feature on YouTube
Oh yes you tube speed slow down and Repeat section plus lesson for the pattern
What's tripping me up is the speed, finger and picking coordination why i start slow memorize pattern, then slowly and i mean slowly build up to speed

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Rolled edges is having the edge of the fingerboard rolled over a bit as if it’s been worn from playing, that’s not the issue, the guy just went too hard with a fret end file, or probably didn’t use an actual fret end file and free handed it-

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As a result, the high E is basically coming down right where the fret end is sloping down and unless I’m careful, it’s just slips off.
Not to change the subject -- but is that a tall bong in the background?
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Oh yes you tube speed slow down and Repeat section plus lesson for the pattern
What's tripping me up is the speed, finger and picking coordination why i start slow memorize pattern, then slowly and i mean slowly build up to speed

:bag

If there’s any advice I could give there it’s to maybe not spend quite as much time doing all that at a slow speed. I used to spend so much time with a metronome going slow, but I think at this point that’s only really effective at getting the notes memorized, because there’s a lot that changes when you start getting up to tempo. The timing of things and which direction your pick is moving, namely. When you have all the time in the world you’re not even thinking about that pick traveling from one note to the next, and you get an odd sense of the timing because it’s not being played at tempo over the beat. Then you try to play them up to speed and none of it makes sense, you feel like you spent hours learning nothing.

Hahahah that whole intro to Cliffs Of Dover is a crash course in that. Those descending cascades sound nothing at all like that played at slow tempos and I was alternate picking the entire thing before I attempted it at tempo.

So even if you bomb the shit out of it and only get a few notes right each time, don’t be afraid to play around at tempo or 3/4, because you’ll start getting little glimpses of how it’s supposed to sound/work. That’s really all I’m doing in that vid, I already learned what notes to play, I’m just bashing it in my head until I get to them all cleanly and smoothly, it’s often easier to let my fingers figure that out on their own rather than me sitting there trying to analyze it.
 
If there’s any advice I could give there it’s to maybe not spend quite as much time doing all that at a slow speed. I used to spend so much time with a metronome going slow, but I think at this point that’s only really effective at getting the notes memorized, because there’s a lot that changes when you start getting up to tempo. The timing of things and which direction your pick is moving, namely. When you have all the time in the world you’re not even thinking about that pick traveling from one note to the next, and you get an odd sense of the timing because it’s not being played at tempo over the beat. Then you try to play them up to speed and none of it makes sense, you feel like you spent hours learning nothing.

Hahahah that whole intro to Cliffs Of Dover is a crash course in that. Those descending cascades sound nothing at all like that played at slow tempos and I was alternate picking the entire thing before I attempted it at tempo.

So even if you bomb the shit out of it and only get a few notes right each time, don’t be afraid to play around at tempo or 3/4, because you’ll start getting little glimpses of how it’s supposed to sound/work. That’s really all I’m doing in that vid, I already learned what notes to play, I’m just bashing it in my head until I get to them all cleanly and smoothly, it’s often easier to let my fingers figure that out on their own rather than me sitting there trying to analyze it.
Not Stone here but …
Drew
How long do you go at it in a session before you end up with diminishing results?
 
If there’s any advice I could give there it’s to maybe not spend quite as much time doing all that at a slow speed. I used to spend so much time with a metronome going slow, but I think at this point that’s only really effective at getting the notes memorized, because there’s a lot that changes when you start getting up to tempo. The timing of things and which direction your pick is moving, namely. When you have all the time in the world you’re not even thinking about that pick traveling from one note to the next, and you get an odd sense of the timing because it’s not being played at tempo over the beat. Then you try to play them up to speed and none of it makes sense, you feel like you spent hours learning nothing.

Hahahah that whole intro to Cliffs Of Dover is a crash course in that. Those descending cascades sound nothing at all like that played at slow tempos and I was alternate picking the entire thing before I attempted it at tempo.

So even if you bomb the shit out of it and only get a few notes right each time, don’t be afraid to play around at tempo or 3/4, because you’ll start getting little glimpses of how it’s supposed to sound/work. That’s really all I’m doing in that vid, I already learned what notes to play, I’m just bashing it in my head until I get to them all cleanly and smoothly, it’s often easier to let my fingers figure that out on their own rather than me sitting there trying to analyze it.
This is very true, @50% it sounds nothing like the lick, so I try more @75% but thats when I say damn i gots ways to go
But I enjoy the challenge you know being Italian does come with some traits, hard headed, stubbornness, to name a few

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Not Stone here but …
Drew
How long do you go at it in a session before you end up with diminishing results?

4 hours is my limit on doing any one thing, doesn’t matter if that’s guitar, work, getting a tattoo, watching TV, etc. But that definitely doesn’t mean I’m sitting here and playing for 4 straight hours, I go about 30-45 minutes where I’m doing exactly what I am in that video and then my fingers are shot, or my focus is fucked, so I’ll stop for 15-20 minutes and eat or watch something. If I spend that whole time thinking about what I’m practicing, the next time I pick up the guitar there’s a high probability I’ll start off better than I was able to play it at any point previously, so even when I’m not getting unfocused or achy I’ll take breaks.

I do tend to over-practice, too, but it works out in the long run. Though I know how to play that section of Cliffs, I’m not moving on until I can play it repeatedly without fucking up and much cleaner. Then when I learn the next part, each time I practice it I start from the beginning of the song. It surely takes up some mental resources to go all the way back to the start every time, but by the time I reach the end of any song, I’m usually show ready with it.

Hahahah and I go from diminishing returns to fully depleted really fast, I know when I fuck up hitting that open E at the very start 3x in a row it’s time to stop. :rofl
 
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Then when I learn the next part, each time I practice it I start from the beginning of the song.
Try only working on the part of the run that’s giving you the most trouble rather than playing it from the top. After I started doing this, I began to work out licks even quicker than before. I forget who I learned that philosophy from, but it’s been a game changer for me.
 
Try only working on the part of the run that’s giving you the most trouble rather than playing it from the top. After I started doing this, I began to work out licks even quicker than before. I forget who I learned that philosophy from, but it’s been a game changer for me.
This is what I do I concentrate on the really tough parts parts that are usually way above my current skill level and I stick to that, but i also start from the beginning as well to keep things fresh, once i feel pretty comfortable with the parts i put it all together till it sounds at least half decent

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There sure is a lot of good advice here for sure, especially for noobs like myself, again its why this place is like no other
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Try only working on the part of the run that’s giving you the most trouble rather than playing it from the top. After I started doing this, I began to work out licks even quicker than before. I forget who I learned that philosophy from, but it’s been a game changer for me.

I do that in the beginning phases, but like you can see in the video, there’s a certain point where there’s no one particular point of failure and with that particular song for me, one fuckup is like hitting a bump in the rode on a motorcycle at 150mph.
 
I say try to play the lick at 110% once or twice. You'll be able to get an idea of where you're at. Then, slow it down to 80%, get the notes and other things in place, and build it back up to 110%. This way, you won't sound at or past your abilities.
 
Saturday, I put Dunlop dual design strap buttons on my PRS DW CE24, so that's one more guitar on the wall without a fixed strap. PRS buttons, being oversized, were always a pain in the ass. Have another set to go on the Majesty when it arrives.
 
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