What’s going on with Marshall??

[0XI0]

a brand new factory JVM410 with warranty is $1900, this bubble is gonna pop soon and pop hard

Marshall JVM410H 100-watt 4-channel Tube Head

JVM Series 100-Watt, 4-Channel Valve Guitar Amp Head

www.sweetwater.com

 

[Frodebro]

If everyone is all in on modeling; no need. If others in band have traditional guitar amps on stage and you have a modeler and monitor wedge; good luck keeping up. It's a losing battle.

A modeler and a Fender FR-12 holds its own just fine. Same with the Friedman ASC-12. Those two I own and have direct experience with, so I can verify their performance. The Friedman actually hits pretty hard for a 1x12, but it weighs almost as much as my 1960s.

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

a brand new factory JVM410 with warranty is $1900, this bubble is gonna pop soon and pop hard

Marshall JVM410H 100-watt 4-channel Tube Head

JVM Series 100-Watt, 4-Channel Valve Guitar Amp Head

www.sweetwater.com

"Estimated December 2024." We'll see. By the time they actually do get back to "in stock" across the board in a relatively feasible manner, inflation and the new distributor in the US will have them quite a bit higher than $1,899.

 

[maguchi]

First we heard they were sold to Zound and became the Marshall Group

Then there was the big 50% off sale on all the British made models

Now several online shops like GC, Zzounds, and AMS no longer list the British models, and others like Sweetwater still list them but not in stock (back ordered).

The only models you can find are the Studio series and Vietnam made models.

Something seems to be going on…

What's going on with Marshall?...

MARSHALS MIGHT BE SHIPPING AGAIN!

NAD!

I ordered a Marshall 1974 handwired combo several months ago and kept getting emails about delays on my order and had forgotten all about it. Today I was surprised to see they delivered it. So apparently Marshall's are available again, at least on this one order of one amp anyways, YMMV.

I know a lot of folks like higher gain amps and I already got those, like, Plexi, Silver Anniversary and JCM 2000. So I wanted to get the JTM Bluesbreaker sound.

I only been playing it for about a hour so far, however am very happy with the sound, thick, creamy and smooth. No reverb, but it gots a tube driven tremelo circuit. The tremelo sound is OK, I can probly use it on some songs, but I heard better tremelo on Blackface amps before.

Anyways hopefully all you'ze guys what been waiting on Marshall amps will be able to get them again now.

 

[EOengineer]

If it's only one thing folks would pick them for, that's gotta be 100% it: Ceriatone nails the hot-rodded Marshall tones. Their other stuff is supposedly great too (Dumble inspired, Fenders and they seem to have a SLO build now with custom trannies just for it).
I was able to pick up JVMs at good prices over here but decided to go Ceriatone.

Nik built me a 2204 with the 3 way bright cap mod and by-passable buffered fx loop a couple years ago and it just absolutely slaughters everything I put it up against, including a couple OG 2204 heads.

I’d never buy a modern Marshall, though I do think the DSL amps are a ridiculous steal on the used market.

 

[spawnofthesith]

To me, the struggle of Marshall and Mesa paints a bigger picture, electric guitar hasn't been popular for at least a decade and the young people who are into electric guitar don't buy tube amps.
As much as I love tube amps, the truth is tube amps are a non-essential piece of gear this day and age.

I don't think Mesa selling to gibson had anything to do with "struggling" and everything to do with Randall getting old and wanting to cash out. Seems like Mesa can hardly even keep up with demand, especially when they drop a new product

 

[TSJMajesty]

I don't think Mesa selling to gibson had anything to do with "struggling" and everything to do with Randall getting old and wanting to cash out. Seems like Mesa can hardly even keep up with demand, especially when they drop a new product

Maybe they're just not producing amps in large quantities any longer, what with all the digital gear available now.

 

[paisleywookiee]

If it's only one thing folks would pick them for, that's gotta be 100% it: Ceriatone nails the hot-rodded Marshall tones. Their other stuff is supposedly great too (Dumble inspired, Fenders and they seem to have a SLO build now with custom trannies just for it).
I was able to pick up JVMs at good prices over here but decided to go Ceriatone.

That SLO clone is SO tempting.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Maybe they're just not producing amps in large quantities any longer, what with all the digital gear available now.

Of course “Hearsay” but what I’ve heard was that RS was shopping buyers for a couple years before selecting Gibson Obviously we don’t have access to their books but I’m really not buying that the company was struggling. Seemingly impressive output for a relatively smaller US company

The number of lower wattage Mark Vs out in the wild is pretty mind boggling tbh

There was the marginal “price cut” earlier this year but that was a Gibson wide thing and not explicitly tied to Mesa

 

[maguchi]

"Estimated December 2024." We'll see. By the time they actually do get back to "in stock" across the board in a relatively feasible manner, inflation and the new distributor in the US will have them quite a bit higher than $1,899.

I just received a Marshall 1974x what I ordered 4 months ago. And the only thing I can add is that my cost was locked in from when I first ordered the amp 4 months ago and it did not change. So maybe the issues of been worked out.

 

[spawnofthesith]

That’s another thing…. Transatlantic distribution issues /= struggling company


Mesa has never been good at this. Pre or post Gibson

Marshall’s US distribution before the initial sale was whack, and obviously once they decided to take it over themselves we saw that -dramatic- US price cut. Since they seem to be getting sold once again I’m sure that has continued to impact the distribution here…

But by all accounts they’re pulling in more cash from Bluetooth speakers which is strange to me, but if that’s what’s keeping amp production alive I’m all for it

I am willing to believ that Marshall has foundered in recent years with tube amp sales, but I don’t think that’s an issue inherent to tube amps in and of itself. Their previous distribution kind of priced them oht of the reasonable market, especially when there’s so many “Marshall alternatives” available, not only offering (previously) better prices, but also variations of circuits that consumers were actually after

 

[spawnofthesith]

People love to criticize fender and Gibson for not being “innovative enough” but I feel like Marshall is at least a somewhat decent example of a legacy brand of trying to branch out more than resting on their laurels and it’s been poorly received. It’s pretty common for people to be looking to brands producing “what Marshall used to do” (and/or 40-50 year old mods to that) rather than being interested in anything “new” Marshall is offering

 

[paisleywookiee]

Of course “Hearsay” but what I’ve heard was that RS was shopping buyers for a couple years before selecting Gibson Obviously we don’t have access to their books but I’m really not buying that the company was struggling. Seemingly impressive output for a relatively smaller US company

The number of lower wattage Mark Vs out in the wild is pretty mind boggling tbh

There was the marginal “price cut” earlier this year but that was a Gibson wide thing and not explicitly tied to Mesa

There’s no way Mesa Boogie has ever struggled in the last decade at least. They still can’t make them fast enough.

 

[la szum]

Yeah my mate Chris is exactly the same.

I still don't understand why he thinks a valve amp is less repairable than a modeller though? It's absolute nonsense.

We still love them, though.

 

[la szum]

There’s no way Mesa Boogie has ever struggled in the last decade at least. They still can’t make them fast enough.

For the most part this is true---but man, if we are being honest they made some great amps
that just feel flat on the marketplace, and didn't last long. Didn't they also have some issues,
Pre-Gibson, where they had to revoke some dealership privileges and stock from some retailers
that had built up a lot of debt with Mesa?

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

Price is actually decent for what it is.

Marshall DSL100 with crucial Mods! - musical instruments - by owner - sale - craigslist

Up for sale is my year 2000, JCM2000 DSL 100w head. This should not be confused with the current Vietnam made models. The JCM 2000 series, like all it's predecessors, are made in the UK. You can...

chicago.craigslist.org

 

[Elf]

Cool amp, I would not touch it without a picture of the main board issue number.

 

[Eagle]

Being from America, I feel like my relationship with Marshall could be different if I were from the UK. On this side of the pond, there are a lot of Marshall flavored options for a more competitive price considering the “improvements” and options.

Again. Being from America, they remind me of Taco Bell. I love them, but every time they come out with something, I can’t help but feel like I’ve seen it before.

Ok so what part of a Friedman BE deluxe have we not seen before? Or any Suhr guitar?

 

[Eagle]

They need a 20w three channel JVM.

 

[HotRats]

They need a 20w three channel JVM.

If I were Marshall I'd make a "metal" and a "classic rock" JVM.
3ch in 100W format and 2ch in 20W format.