Timbuck is still using Edge Browser, will be interesting to see what they bring to the table?

They're Taiwanese, not Chinese, but Positive Grid has made massive headway in the amp market. Last I checked they were right behind BOSS, but I'm guessing they'll soon be the second largest amp manufacturer behind Fender.

And Sweetwater is now carrying NUX and Hotone; major North American distribution and dealer networks are big steps toward success.

I was thinking about PG earlier, specifically their newest Bias X release.
Really strange how they've not given the option for people to 'trial/demo' it first.

I don't think I've seen anyone posting about it, or anything being posted at all, since the first few days it was released.
 
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I think it's really hard for newcomers to truly take on the established titans of digital modeling (Boss, Line6, Fracta and Kemper), as long as they don't sit on their laurels. Fender as a newcomer with a huge brand recognition hasn't managed to make a real dent in the higher end modeler market. Neural has been the most successful due to their aggressive marketing.

Hotone is the best of the cheaper units coming from China, and the Ampero 2 Stomp I have is basically what I wish the HX Stomp was in terms of hardware. But it's still no Helix in many ways. Modeling sounds very good but is not the most authentic behavior, effects are a mixed bag, feature set is not as vast. That's all fine in a lower price point, and it's an impressively built unit.

But their strategy seems to be to cram whatever they've developed for the Valeton sub-brand into as many form factors as possible - kind of like Line6 once did.

I wonder if these brands are willing to pivot to the kind of model people have been expecting from the established kings of digital modeling.
BOSS barely updates anything, but they release pretty "finished" products that tend to only have minor bugs visible to the user - IR loading issues aside. Others tends to have continuous updates on a more long term platform.

Hotone has suprised users with pretty significant updates, but at the same time it's unknown what they will add and what they will not. It all seems a bit more like "release some updates, then push out a new product" shorter term plan.

Nux is another brand to follow, but so far their more successful modelers seem to be in the beginner end, and the Trident from a few years back hasn't found the right following - even though on paper there's a lot to like about it.
What about fender tmp? Seems like many guys love it and many guys don’t love it, but I have a hard time believing that fender is gonna really support this after a few years.
 
i dunno. I'm 85 now, but in the past Line 6 let me try out a Helix at an early stage when I was really broke. .
(I'm a Flamenco guitarist; not many gigs around for us these days (I probably had the last one in Santa Barbara before the restaurant folded for good). Sort of considered myself the Johnny Appleseed of Flamenco in the US until a few years ago, but now am identifying with John Henry.)

I was despeately trying to get the nylon string amplified sound I heard in my head, but after much effort, the technological breakthrough was the pickups, starting with the disastrous Barcus Berry - first the Takamine ctp pickups, then the Fishman Aura Pro, and many others, but finally the Adeline AD-85 pickup ($60 on amazon) which sounds as good as the best of the others, and is stick-on with a 1/4" jack and a gain knob so easy input to mfx, etc. After 50 years if struggle, problem solved (using Cordoba Flamenco guitars). All the other effects packages now sound excellent, especially through my Headrush FRFR- G0.

I currently own an HX Stomp, an HX One, Helix Native, (and almost every other mfx known to man), and my feeling now is that for my use case, everything is probably as good as it is going to get (I mean, who needs more than a Boss OD-200?). Nevertheless, if I have any cash left at the time I will probably purchase a Stadium when it becomes available, not because I need it, but because Line 6 deserves the business to keep going (and donate it back to L6 in my will). Kudos to Line 6!!!! It has been a long journey, and you guys really helped out a lot.
 
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What about fender tmp? Seems like many guys love it and many guys don’t love it, but I have a hard time believing that fender is gonna really support this after a few years.
Fender will probably make a vintage re-issue some day, claiming it's capable of all those "rich, authentic, vintage tone master pro tones".
Or, call it a Squier Tone Master Pro, or something.
 
But I could see them eating at the Boss Katana and Line6 Catalyst market at some point.
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I currently own zero Yamaha-branded products, but that's not a reflection on their quality. So you win!

But if you count Line 6 as Yamaha, I currently have:
  • 2x Helix Stadium XL
  • Helix Stadium
  • Helix Stadium Backpack
  • EX2
  • Expand D10
  • Helix Floor
  • Helix Rack
  • Helix Control
  • Helix LT
  • Helix Native
  • Metallurgy
  • 2x HX Stomp
  • HX Stomp XL
  • HX Effects
  • HX One
  • POD Go Wireless
  • POD Express Guitar
  • POD Farm
  • Echo Pro
  • Filter Pro
  • DL4 MkII
  • DL4
  • EX-1
  • Variax JTV59
Used to own:
  • AX2-212
  • AX2 Floorboard
  • POD
  • POD Pro
  • POD HD
  • POD HD500
  • POD HD Pro
  • Amp Farm
  • Echo Farm
  • Mobile Keys 49
  • MIDI Mobilizer
  • MobileIn
  • Variax 700
What? No PowerCab or DT amps? I'm so disappointed.
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I was thinking about PG earlier, specifically their newest Bias X release.
Really strange how they've not given the option for people to 'trial/demo' it first.

It must have something to do with the costs of running the AI service. I guess they can’t afford to pay for the queries being done by people who haven’t paid for it.
 
iPhone 16 pro max on edge

Edge is a strange browser choice, in my opinion. It might be worth looking into a different browser?
I'd personally recommend Brave Browser, the built in adblocker is amazing for starters.

Anyway... this is how it looks for me on my *phone and nothing is disappearing, it's tucked away in the dots menu.
(* Samsung S23 or whatever):


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Edge is a strange browser choice, in my opinion. It might be worth looking into a different browser?
I'd personally recommend Brave Browser, the built in adblocker is amazing for starters.

Anyway... this is how it looks for me on my *phone and nothing is disappearing, it's tucked away in the dots menu.
(* Samsung S23 or whatever):


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Will try brave
 
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