Timbuck is still using Edge Browser, will be interesting to see what they bring to the table?
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I feel like prices are just keep going up but that’s just the way of everything right now, but I think what line 6 is offering with the stadium is a good value and I think they have a plan for this thing to evolve in the next at least five even 10 years
Fractal definitely changes hardware quicker than that. It seems like every 3 to 5 years maybe? But the stadium screen seems to be built to continue to evolve in the next at least 10 years. It’s well thought out and there’s a lot of unique things to it as well as as to the scribble strips which have higher resolutionso I do like that mindset of creating the hardware and evolving the software overtime as long as the hardware is capable enough, which in this case of the stadium, it seems like it is.
I’m really interested to see if they do any power amp modeling if that’s even in the scheme of things going forward as well as the looper if they’re expanding on that and it becoming more full-fledged of a looper, such as the one on the head, rush prime???
2026. I think will be a very exciting year for modeling because I bet fracture will come out with something new.
Fractal definitely changes hardware quicker than that. It seems like every 3 to 5 years maybe? But the stadium screen seems to be built to continue to evolve in the next at least 10 years. It’s well thought out and there’s a lot of unique things to it as well as as to the scribble strips which have higher resolutionso I do like that mindset of creating the hardware and evolving the software overtime as long as the hardware is capable enough, which in this case of the stadium, it seems like it is.
I’m really interested to see if they do any power amp modeling if that’s even in the scheme of things going forward as well as the looper if they’re expanding on that and it becoming more full-fledged of a looper, such as the one on the head, rush prime???
2026. I think will be a very exciting year for modeling because I bet fracture will come out with something new.
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Meant to say fractal lol
Dom Mcsweeney
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Dom Mcsweeney
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this Gif is 100% on pointWhy edit when you can quote yourself?
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I currently own zero Yamaha-branded products, but that's not a reflection on their quality. So you win!I'm willing to bet I own more Yamaha stuff than @Digital Igloo
But if you count Line 6 as Yamaha, I currently have:
- 2x Helix Stadium XL
- Helix Stadium
- Helix Stadium Backpack
- EX2
- Expand D10
- Helix Floor
- Helix Rack
- Helix Control
- Helix LT
- Helix Native
- Metallurgy
- 2x HX Stomp
- HX Stomp XL
- HX Effects
- HX One
- POD Go Wireless
- POD Express Guitar
- POD Farm
- Echo Pro
- Filter Pro
- DL4 MkII
- DL4
- EX-1
- Variax JTV59
- AX2-212
- AX2 Floorboard
- POD
- POD Pro
- POD HD
- POD HD500
- POD HD Pro
- Amp Farm
- Echo Farm
- Mobile Keys 49
- MIDI Mobilizer
- MobileIn
- Variax 700
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That is quite the humble brag
I have a Helix Floor and a few old PODs and a DL4 in the closet. The only thing L6 I've regretted buying is the M20d. It was so close to being awesome, but just that little bit to far from being usable. And unlike the Helix it got kicked to the curb.
No Variaxes?!
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I see some gaps. I have a Flextone II I will sell to you for the cost of shipping plus a jar of dill pickles.
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Same - and an old YZF-600R in the garage. :)As much as I'm a Fractal fanboi, as a consumer I sure appreciate fierce competition. And it's funny because I'm otherwise up to my eyeballs in Yamaha stuff in my house. PA speakers, subwoofer, DTX drums and multipad, a soundbar, several coaxial floor wedges, an old G112-II that I consider a family heirloom. I'm willing to bet I own more Yamaha stuff than @Digital Igloo
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The quilted maple variant of that was my main axe for quite a while (Almost everything I rock these days has a trem bar). Great guitar!
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"content not viewable in your region''
lol Imgur have blocked themselves from UK audiences... luckily I have brave browser so I can open it in Tor mode.... but ....
If you ever fancy using a different service that still works: https://postimages.org/
"content not viewable in your region''
lol Imgur have blocked themselves from UK audiences... luckily I have brave browser so I can open it in Tor mode.... but ....
If you ever fancy using a different service that still works: https://postimages.org/
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I know a dude who knows a dude...That is quite the humble brag
Gah! Knew I forgot something. Edited to add my black JTV59 with humbuckers.
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I think it's really hard for newcomers to truly take on the established titans of digital modeling (Boss, Line6, Fracta and Kemper), as long as they don't sit on their laurels. Fender as a newcomer with a huge brand recognition hasn't managed to make a real dent in the higher end modeler market. Neural has been the most successful due to their aggressive marketing.
Hotone is the best of the cheaper units coming from China, and the Ampero 2 Stomp I have is basically what I wish the HX Stomp was in terms of hardware. But it's still no Helix in many ways. Modeling sounds very good but is not the most authentic behavior, effects are a mixed bag, feature set is not as vast. That's all fine in a lower price point, and it's an impressively built unit.
But their strategy seems to be to cram whatever they've developed for the Valeton sub-brand into as many form factors as possible - kind of like Line6 once did.
I wonder if these brands are willing to pivot to the kind of model people have been expecting from the established kings of digital modeling.
BOSS barely updates anything, but they release pretty "finished" products that tend to only have minor bugs visible to the user - IR loading issues aside. Others tends to have continuous updates on a more long term platform.
Hotone has suprised users with pretty significant updates, but at the same time it's unknown what they will add and what they will not. It all seems a bit more like "release some updates, then push out a new product" shorter term plan.
Nux is another brand to follow, but so far their more successful modelers seem to be in the beginner end, and the Trident from a few years back hasn't found the right following - even though on paper there's a lot to like about it.
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Well I do count Line 6 as Yamaha these days so I stand corrected
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More than 7 years since the AXE III was released.
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They're Taiwanese, not Chinese, but Positive Grid has made massive headway in the amp market. Last I checked they were right behind BOSS, but I'm guessing they'll soon be the second largest amp manufacturer behind Fender.
And Sweetwater is now carrying NUX and Hotone; major North American distribution and dealer networks are big steps toward success.
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Positive Grid - like many other Asian brands - seem to have been aiming at the beginner/home player market first and foremost. With what the Spark stuff costs, that seems to be a "volume sales, not that big margins" market. But I'm guessing they have really eaten into the Yamaha THR and Katana Air sales.
They don't really have an offering to go against the big dogs, and something like the BIAS X sure as hell is not it. But I could see them eating at the Boss Katana and Line6 Catalyst market at some point.
