Timbuck is still using Edge Browser, will be interesting to see what they bring to the table?

[Sascha Franck]

Or added a performance controller that could be played via phone or tablet.

You will possibly find some of my requests regarding that very thing like somewhere @TOP.
Kaoss Pad please!

 

[Mikael Dez]

No SysEx commands in Stadium; that's generally too esoteric for your average guitarist. If enough people request it—say they need to control deeper Roland/BOSS functions—we know how to get there.

We filter out both SysEx and active sensing to ensure Helix responds as fast as possible. There's a lot of data going through our boxes, and IIRC, we landed on that decision based on testing. If it's super important I can ask the team what the deal was.

Personally, I haven't yet seen multieffect touchscreens utilized in a manner that could be described as anything more than "huh, that's kinda clever." And that's fine; at the end of the day, these are musicians' tools. But I'm actually surprised no one copied Stagescape's Smart FX (now Focus view) before we could. Or added a performance controller that could be played via phone or tablet. Or... many other things.

But the main reason I don't give one particular company credit is because of the numerous slimy things they've done that aren't public-facing.

Headrush (touchscreen), TC Electronic G-System (rotary encoders), Kemper (profiling), TH-U (profiling+modeling), Helix Native (plugin compatibility), and hell, we gave up on putting additional "marketed-as-premium-but-it's-really-not" IP behind a paywall a decade ago when we ditched HD model packs. If rolling everyone else's ideas into a single box is considered "game changing," what's the point in anyone trying to innovate at all? Wouldn't the winner simply be who can copy the most the fastest?

I will say their plugins' amp and pedal GUI is absolutely gorgeous tho'. Works of art.

They shoulda just stuck with plugins imo - they wouldn’t have dug themselves such messy hole and would probably be able to chug out more than one generic archetype every two years

 

[Digital Igloo]

You will possibly find some of my requests regarding that very thing like somewhere @TOP.
Kaoss Pad please!

Limited to 16 parameters per axis, but you can set the range and direction of each parameter (via Min/Max) and if the Rubber Band toggle is on, it can snap back to the original position when you lift your finger (instantly or over time, from 10 ms ~ 8 seconds).

Via the Command Center, you can also assign the X and Y axis to transmit MIDI CC to control your pedals/plugins.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Limited to 16 parameters per axis, but you can set the range and direction of each parameter (via Min/Max) and if the Rubber Band toggle is on, it can snap back to the original position when you lift your finger (instantly or over time, from 10 ms ~ 8 seconds).

iPads have distance sensors as well, no? Just to give you ideas...

 

[Gary_W]

iPads have distance sensors as well, no? Just to give you ideas...

If an iPhone has similar, I could keep that in my pocket and pretend I have a theramin controlled via my gyrating hips

 

[mbenigni]

Personally, I haven't yet seen multieffect touchscreens utilized in a manner that could be described as anything more than "huh, that's kinda clever." And that's fine; at the end of the day, these are musicians' tools.

I assume you mean up until Stadium? Certainly not up to and including Stadium.

As for the Guitar Processor Who Shall Not Be Named ... A lot of the improvements came not from big design choices, but in the ways that a touchscreen complementing an array of encoders refined existing ideas. (Many of them Line 6's, granted.) For instance, wide parameters (typically pans and levels) that often needed to be assigned from min to max for utility purposes: onerous with a small encoder that might require a dozen turns, but a breeze on a touchscreen with one swipe (and an encoder that could be employed for fine tuning, and QWERTY input for OCD-exact assignments.)

These little things add up. And again, I know I'm getting dangerously close to suggesting that the touchscreen is the thing in its own right (Tim).

But I'm actually surprised no one copied Stagescape's Smart FX (now Focus view) before we could. Or added a performance controller that could be played via phone or tablet. Or... many other things.

Focus View looks brilliant and I can't wait to try it. The GR-55 had its "EZ Edit" screen but no thought went into the content represented on the axes (mild vs bright, wet vs dry?) so it was kind of pointless.

Years ago, I put together my own TouchOSC setup for the GR-55, and one of the pages had an XY controller for Cutoff and Resonance for the onboard synths (very cool for the looping rhythms and arpeggiated content), and onscreen keyboards for triggering pads, etc. under your live guitar/ guitar synth. Just reminiscing out loud, since maybe two people ever used it. :/

 

[Sascha Franck]

If an iPhone has similar, I could keep that in my pocket and pretend I have a theramin controlled via my gyrating hips

Once the time has come, don't forget to take a video!

 

[mbenigni]

They shoulda just stuck with plugins imo - they wouldn’t have dug themselves such messy hole and would probably be able to chug out more than one generic archetype every two years

I for one remain happy they released the QC - five-ish enjoyable years and running. Even if Stadium is poised to take its place, no regerts.

IMO they dug their hole when they "crossed the streams", and decided the plugins should or could or would transfer freely between PC/Mac and QC.

 

[mbenigni]

Limited to 16 parameters per axis, but you can set the range and direction of each parameter (via Min/Max) and if the Rubber Band toggle is on, it can snap back to the original position when you lift your finger (instantly or over time, from 10 ms ~ 8 seconds).

Via the Command Center, you can also assign the X and Y axis to transmit MIDI CC to control your pedals/plugins.

 

[mbenigni]

iPads have distance sensors as well, no? Just to give you ideas...

This reminds of all the craziness I got up to after the Wii first came out, putting the WiiMote inside expression pedals and controlling plugins over WiFi. Good times.

 

[mbenigni]

If an iPhone has similar, I could keep that in my pocket and pretend I have a theramin controlled via my gyrating hips

#justhappytoseeyou

 

[Frodebro]

Yeah, I don't think people in the US understands just how much G66 adds on top.

FM9 in the US is $1800, with Swedish VAT (25%) it's $2250. Or €1930.
But on G66, FM9 costs €2360. That's almost a 20% markup of over €400.

"But but, it's because they provide multiple years of warranty!"
No.

Compare Line6 Helix in US, it's $1300 on Sweetwater, with Swedish VAT it's $1625. Or €1393.
On Thomann, Helix costs... €1232. And that's also including 3 years of warranty and great return policies plus super friendly support.

I don't have anything against the people working at G66, the dealings I had with them were great. But so has the dealings I've had with other stores, like Thomann, so it's not like G66 is anything special in that regards.

Just keep in mind that Fractal stuff would cost considerably more in North America if it was distributed through a retailer rather than factory direct.

 

[LP59]

Just keep in mind that Fractal stuff would cost considerably more in North America if it was distributed through a retailer rather than factory direct.

...or, and this is probably more likely, the price would remain the same, but Fractal would need to give the retailers a share of their margin.

 

[Mongillo19]

We really let this guy coax us into 9 pages of discussion

 

[gearJunkie]

We really let this guy coax us into 9 pages of discussion

 

[JiveTurkey]

IWONT BE TROLED THE OTHR 17 FORMS I HAVE PASTED ON KNOWE WHAT THEY HAVE

 

[Chocol8]

IMO they dug their hole when they "crossed the streams", and decided the plugins should or could or would transfer freely between PC/Mac and QC.

So well before launch? I would agree with that timing, but I think there were other big mistakes made in a similar time frame.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

IWONT BE TROLED THE OTHR 17 FORMS I HAVE PASTED ON KNOWE WHAT THEY HAVE

@everyone. How are the other threads going? Come on, at least one of you guys has been reading them all. Share with the rest of the group.

 

[JiveTurkey]

@everyone. How are the other threads going? Come on, at least one of you guys has been reading them all. Share with the rest of the group.

 

[timbuck3]

@everyone. How are the other threads going? Come on, at least one of you guys has been reading them all. Share with the rest of the group.

Hey, all the other threads are going fine from what I can see. Thanks for asking.