Synergy Owners Thread

2dor said:
Yes they do. I had 2 built in the past 2 years with them - just takes a bit of pestering them on Facebook Messenger to get the deal going.
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Is the turnaround time long? That Orange vid Leon released here a few days ago was AWESOME and has me thinking it would be a killer module to have.
 
2dor said:
Yes they do. I had 2 built in the past 2 years with them - just takes a bit of pestering them on Facebook Messenger to get the deal going.

Modules are compatible with the Synergy stuff, yes. I run them in my SYN1.
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I wouldn't trust them, TBH. You are the only person who I have heard say they are reachable recently. Everyone else has reported he's impossible to get ahold of now. I've reached out numerous times the last couple of years, no dice.

I do have one Salvation module I picked up used on Reverb, it's very cool. But I would not trust anyone so hard to get a hold of and with no active online presence.

There's plenty of sh*t to buy in Synergy land already.
 
Elric said:
I wouldn't trust them, TBH. You are the only person who I have heard say they are reachable recently. Everyone else has reported he's impossible to get ahold of now. I've reached out numerous times the last couple of years, no dice.

I do have one Salvation module I picked up used on Reverb, it's very cool. But I would not trust anyone so hard to get a hold of and with no active online presence.

There's plenty of sh*t to buy in Synergy land already.
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I can only speak for myself - I saw people complain in the Synergy group on FB too but in both cases, I got hold of Antonin on FB messenger, he told me what the modules would cost, I wired a fraction of that cost to his PayPal (goods & services) and he then messaged me when they were done. It was a Camerock and a Unnamed module.
 
2dor said:
I can only speak for myself - I saw people complain in the Synergy group on FB too but in both cases, I got hold of Antonin on FB messenger, he told me what the modules would cost, I wired a fraction of that cost to his PayPal (goods & services) and he then messaged me when they were done. It was a Camerock and a Unnamed module.
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Yep. I understand. It's good to hear you had a good interaction with him and there is a possibility he may still be kicking around. I do think the modders (mostly him and 'Jaded Faith') were good for the MTS/Synergy market. I think in the Randall days it was more a necessity, but it would still be nice to be able to try out some more of Salvation and JF's takes on the modules without having to hunt down a used one.

The Module I got on the used market was the 'Camerock'; so that's my point of reference for his stuff, too. Definitely was always curious about the Cameron thing, so it was worth it to me to hunt that one down... but there are bunch more that'd be really fun to mess with.

If you have any future contact let him know he needs to raise his profile as there is still interest. :LOL: I'm still hunting for a 'Spawn' module on Reverb.
 
Elric said:
Yep. I understand. It's good to hear you had a good interaction with him and there is a possibility he may still be kicking around. I do think the modders (mostly him and 'Jaded Faith') were good for the MTS/Synergy market. I think in the Randall days it was more a necessity, but it would still be nice to be able to try out some more of Salvation and JF's takes on the modules without having to hunt down a used one.

The Module I got on the used market was the 'Camerock'; so that's my point of reference for his stuff, too. Definitely was always curious about the Cameron thing, so it was worth it to me to hunt that one down... but there are bunch more that'd be really fun to mess with.

If you have any future contact let him know he needs to raise his profile as there is still interest. :LOL: I'm still hunting for a 'Spawn' module on Reverb.
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Rob/Jaded Faith is still doing mods to the MTS modules if you have a donor. He did a dual channel Hiwatt DR103 for me a few months ago. I'd guarantee his mods are every bit as good as Salvation. Along with what's listed on the website he can still do his older designs and customs too. I had him to do an Orange AD200B module for me a while back. A demo of my module is posted on his facebook. You just have to ask.

If you want a Splawn, Rob's version was the Quick-Mod
The 1776 was his version of a Cameron, I forget if it was a CCV or Atomica though.

For anyone interested here's an old Jaded Faith module tone comparison chart. As mentioned, Rob should still be able to do any of these, you just have to ask.
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One thing I’ve always been curious about with these units, and tube preamp pedals in general, is how are they able to replicate the preamps that normally use 4 preamp tubes with only 2?
 
mbugbee said:
One thing I’ve always been curious about with these units, and tube preamp pedals in general, is how are they able to replicate the preamps that normally use 4 preamp tubes with only 2?
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Don't forget the SYN1/2/30/50 all contain at least one more preamp tube.

For example the 6505 lead channel has 6 gain stages, each one half of a 12AX7. So if you were able to use each 12AX7 tube as 2 gain stages, you'd have all 6 with just 3 tubes. The real amp uses the 2nd half of V1 and V2 on the rhythm channel instead, so it has a 4th tube.

But even if you had to settle for say 5 gain stages...would anyone miss that extra, largely useless gain if the circuit is made to sound the same otherwise? You could do this by dumping less gain to ground between stages for example.

There's also some amps that might have individual tubes for different channels, then there's the phase inverter, reverb driver and so on.
 
That’s pretty incredible! I’ve spent most of my playing days in the modeling world and am only now getting around to wondering how tubes amps actually function. I really appreciate the insight!
 
MadAsAHatter said:
Rob/Jaded Faith is still doing mods to the MTS modules if you have a donor. He did a dual channel Hiwatt DR103 for me a few months ago. I'd guarantee his mods are every bit as good as Salvation. Along with what's listed on the website he can still do his older designs and customs too. I had him to do an Orange AD200B module for me a while back. A demo of my module is posted on his facebook. You just have to ask.

If you want a Splawn, Rob's version was the Quick-Mod
The 1776 was his version of a Cameron, I forget if it was a CCV or Atomica though.

For anyone interested here's an old Jaded Faith module tone comparison chart. As mentioned, Rob should still be able to do any of these, you just have to ask.
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I had stff modded from Salvation and from Jaded Faith. While I had direct deal with antonin (ordering the modules I wanted) and only bought used stuff made by JF, imho the latter is definitely superior in tone.
Like there wasn’t a blanket over the sound
 
Jimmyno said:
I had stff modded from Salvation and from Jaded Faith. While I had direct deal with antonin (ordering the modules I wanted) and only bought used stuff made by JF, imho the latter is definitely superior in tone.
Like there wasn’t a blanket over the sound
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All but one of my modded modules is from Jaded Faith; either direct mods or bought 2nd hand. I can't comment too much on Antonin's mods since I only have a CAE3+ I bought 2nd hand. The CAE sound really good, but since I've gotten it, it's always sounded comparative off. Now that you mention the blanket it clicked that's what it is. The CAE from Salvation sounds a little muffled. All of my Jaded Faith modules have more clarity to them.

Granted this is small a small sample size. I wouldn't hesitate to grab a Salvation module if one I wanted came up. But I'm more than happy to have Rob mod the last couple of MTS modules I have laying around. I just don't know what I want him to do with them.
 
Don’t get me wrong: the salvation modules sound awesome. And being in Europe makes them easier to find for me. Nevertheless, they sound a bit closed and less airy than JF and Synergy stuff.
 
Jimmyno said:
Don’t get me wrong: the salvation modules sound awesome. And being in Europe makes them easier to find for me. Nevertheless, they sound a bit closed and less airy than JF and Synergy stuff.
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I don't know man.. the stuff I have from Salvation (Camerock and Unnamed) sounds a lot more "alive", very close to a full amp's preamp, than anything I have from Synergy (SLO, Friedman BE-DLX, Ecstasy).
 
2dor said:
Friedman maybe a bit on the polite side but SLO and Ecstasy famously dark sounding amps?
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Ecstasy as a circuit may not be that dark but its treble pot needs to be cranked to an unpleasing-to-the-eye-position (8-9-ish) to get to where a Plexi would be at 5-6.

SLO is pretty dark compared to other higher gain amps. Well, maybe not dark, but smooth certainly.
 
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