Some interesting news from Kemper (Profiler Player)

[Ed DeGenaro]

I'm still unable to add amps through Rig Manager. I was able to remove a few that I'll never use. it doesn't seem to hold the amps when I add them. Also, often the amps showing in Rig Manager are not the correct actual amps in the rigs.

Can you make changes from the pedal and it reflects in the edit buffer in RM and vice versa?

 

[JCW308]

Can you make changes from the pedal and it reflects in the edit buffer in RM and vice versa?

I'm not following your question (sorry). The exp pedal position is not remembered between presets. "It's a feature we haven't added yet" is the excuse.

 

[Enchilada Jones]

I'm not following your question (sorry). The exp pedal position is not remembered between presets. "It's a feature we haven't added yet" is the excuse.

I think he might be referring to the Player as the ‘pedal’ in that example.
when the Rig Manager and the device are connected properly changes made on one will be refletcted on the other.

One thing to keep in mind, and forgive me if you already know but sometimes it’s the simple things that get overlooked, there is a difference between a rig and a profile. When you say ‘the amp’ isn’t the same it is possible to audition profiles (amp and sometimes a cab) you find in Rig Manager that are not on your device nor are they in your local library of rigs. So you can be temporarily listening to a different ‘amp’ that doesn’t get saved to your device or local library (your computer)

not sure if this applies to your situation or not, sorry if it doesn’t help.
save to local library and build a rig with the new profile in it should get you there

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I think he might be referring to the Player as the ‘pedal’ in that example.
when the Rig Manager and the device are connected properly changes made on one will be refletcted on the other.

One thing to keep in mind, and forgive me if you already know but sometimes it’s the simple things that get overlooked, there is a difference between a rig and a profile. When you say ‘the amp’ isn’t the same it is possible to audition profiles (amp and sometimes a cab) you find in Rig Manager that are not on your device nor are they in your local library of rigs. So you can be temporarily listening to a different ‘amp’ that doesn’t get saved to your device or local library (your computer)

not sure if this applies to your situation or not, sorry if it doesn’t help.
save to local library and build a rig with the new profile in it should get you there

That ^

 

[JCW308]

I think he might be referring to the Player as the ‘pedal’ in that example.
when the Rig Manager and the device are connected properly changes made on one will be refletcted on the other.

One thing to keep in mind, and forgive me if you already know but sometimes it’s the simple things that get overlooked, there is a difference between a rig and a profile. When you say ‘the amp’ isn’t the same it is possible to audition profiles (amp and sometimes a cab) you find in Rig Manager that are not on your device nor are they in your local library of rigs. So you can be temporarily listening to a different ‘amp’ that doesn’t get saved to your device or local library (your computer)

not sure if this applies to your situation or not, sorry if it doesn’t help.
save to local library and build a rig with the new profile in it should get you there

I import the rig into local and drag the amp into my own Player and Save. So you are saying I just need to change the name of the actual amp so it starts showing up in my Player as an available amp (not rig) right? I just want to have new amps show up in the dropdown box.

 

[Enchilada Jones]

I import the rig into local and drag the amp into my own Player and Save. So you are saying I just need to change the name of the actual amp so it starts showing up in my Player as an available amp (not rig) right? I just want to have new amps show up in the dropdown box.

I’ll go fire up my stuff and make sure I’m telling you the right thing. It isn’t renaming though, it’s importing or copying etc not drag and drop I don’t think that functionality applies…but I never tried so maybe it should…
be right back

 

[JCW308]

I’ll go fire up my stuff and make sure I’m telling you the right thing. It isn’t renaming though, it’s importing or copying etc not drag and drop I don’t think that functionality applies…but I never tried so maybe it should…
be right back

In all honesty it shouldn't be this hard. I never had any issues like this with other units (like the QC) with adding amps to my collection.

 

[Enchilada Jones]

 

[Enchilada Jones]

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Right click on the new rig you found in rig exchange
In lower right find button that says Store Rig in Profiler
I had already highlighted 8-1 as the target to receive it ( it should over write existing rig)
Push Store once you select the slot you want new rig to occupy and it is done
Probably should also hit Store Rig in Local library if you want to have a local copy of it as well as have it in one of the 50 slots on the Player.
the rig I imported in my example happened to be a DI rig I wanted to try so in that case it is an amp only but that is not anything to be concerned with any rig can be sent/received but any effects in blocks the Player doesn’t currently support will be missing, the amp and cab if it has one as well as blocks A, B (before amp block) and 3and 4 (after cab block) usually Delay and Reverb will be included

 

[JCW308]

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Amp model = Kemper Generic?

How do I get the actual amp name to come up in my list of available amps?

 

[Enchilada Jones]

That is for liquid profiles. The recent update includes the ability to assign an amp model of many amps to get the tone stack and gain parameters to be more like the amp model you choose. That has nothing to do with importing rigs, naming rigs etc

A recently made liquid profile Rig will have that assigned already. You are free to use it to alter any Rig even if it wasn't originally a liquid profile. Otherwise it will have the Generic tone stack 'amp' association applied.
For example. a whole lot of amps in the 70's were some variation of the '60's Fender Bassman so that amp association will work for many amps out there from that era.
The list where you found 'Generic amp' is not a list of 'your amps'. The menu on the left of Rig manager is a place where your rigs are , where the rest of the worlds rigs are, where the rigs on your computer are etc.

If you want to assign a name use the menu in Rig Manager to the right after selecting the rig in the profiler you want to edit data fields including a name. That is the place you should look to to find out what you are working with.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Imagine if there was a screen on the device!

 

[JCW308]

That is for liquid profiles. The recent update includes the ability to assign an amp model of many amps to get the tone stack and gain parameters to be more like the amp model you choose. That has nothing to do with importing rigs, naming rigs etc

A recently made liquid profile Rig will have that assigned already. You are free to use it to alter any Rig even if it wasn't originally a liquid profile. Otherwise it will have the Generic tone stack 'amp' association applied.
For example. a whole lot of amps in the 70's were some variation of the '60's Fender Bassman so that amp association will work for many amps out there from that era.

If you want to assign a name use the menu in Rig Manager to the right after selecting the rig in the profiler you want to edit data fields including a name. That is the place you should look to to find out what you are working with.

Thanks. Coming from Helix, Fractal, BOSS GT-1000 and Quad Cortex, the file management on this Player is absolutely dreadful. Worst of the worst. I mean how hard can it be to add an amp to the available amp list? This is nuts.

 

[Enchilada Jones]

Thanks. Coming from Helix, Fractal, BOSS GT-1000 and Quad Cortex, the file management on this Player is absolutely dreadful. Worst of the worst. I mean how hard can it be to add an amp to the available amp list? This is nuts.

It isn't intuitive but it is efficient, love the German mind for that ! but it takes a little stumbling around to learn a new dance.
If you look at the time stamp on my posts it didn't take long at all to do it, and take and post a picture etc, but I had already learned the steps...

 

[JiveTurkey]

What does "adding an amp to the available amp list" even mean? Are you talking about grabbing the amp block only out of an available profile and bringing it into the local library?

 

[JCW308]

It isn't intuitive but it is efficient, love the German mind for that ! but it takes a little stumbling around to learn a new dance.
If you look at the time stamp on my posts it didn't take long at all to do it, and take and post a picture etc, but I had already learned the steps...

Will keep experimenting. Thanks

 

[JCW308]

What does "adding an amp to the available amp list" even mean? Are you talking about grabbing the amp block only out of an available profile and bringing it into the local library?

What I mean is the Player comes with 50 available amps. I deleted the ones i didn't want (using RM). So now all I want to do is add some bass amp heads and some tube preamps for acoustic setups. How do I get the amps into the drop-down list under "AMP"?

 

[JiveTurkey]

What I mean is the Player comes with 50 available amps. I deleted the ones i didn't want (using RM). So now all I want to do is add some bass amp heads and some tube preamps for acoustic setups. How do I get the amps into the drop-down list under "AMP"?

I need to look at this process in action. Seems like a really clunky way to go about presenting this option to the end user.

 

[JCW308]

I need to look at this process in action. Seems like a really clunky way to go about presenting this option to the end user.

Thank you. I feel like I'm going crazy with this. It shouldn't be this hard to just add some amps to the list of available amps.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Thank you. I feel like I'm going crazy with this. It shouldn't be this hard to just add some amps to the list of available amps.

When you say 50 amps; do you mean it can store50 profiles on internal storage? This is also a confusing shift to me.