Some interesting news from Kemper (Profiler Player)

[Orvillain]

I suspect that the price on the Kemper site doesn't include VAT, which would take it to pretty much £600.

ahhhh yes, that'd make sense.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

If it can't profile this would be a huge miss imo

It ain't got the I/O to profile -- the XLR is a main output, not an input.

 

[Mongillo19]

It ain't got the I/O to profile -- the XLR is a main output, not an input.

That just doesn't make sense to me

The company went from the original idea of the Kemper being to profile your amps and didn't even think about 3rd party profiles to you will exclusively need to use 3rd party profiles (or own multiples of our units)

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

The push-for-secondary function makes those FX knobs pretty darn powerful. So you could have reverb decay and mix, delay mix and feedback between just the two knobs.

 

[laxu]

That just doesn't make sense to me

The company went from the original idea of the Kemper being to profile your amps and didn't even think about 3rd party profiles to you will exclusively need to use 3rd party profiles (or own multiples of our units)

They probably see that 80-90% of their users are not making their own captures but using 3rd party options.

I do agree that having a companion Kemper Profiling plugin or app would have been big.

 

[JiveTurkey]

The push-for-secondary function makes those FX knobs pretty darn powerful. So you could have reverb decay and mix, delay mix and feedback between just the two knobs.

Single up arrow with hold or gtfo

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

That just doesn't make sense to me

The company went from the original idea of the Kemper being to profile your amps and didn't even think about 3rd party profiles to you will exclusively need to use 3rd party profiles (or own multiples of our units)

I dunno -- I think this product is made expressly for the already Kemper converted, and the price kinda reflects that. For folks that already have a bunch of profiles that just want a smaller form factor either for pedal-board integration, or for tossing in gig bag as an all-in-one.

 

[Mongillo19]

They probably see that 80-90% of their users are not making their own captures but using 3rd party options.

I do agree that having a companion Kemper Profiling plugin or app would have been big.

Gotcha. I view this similar to the HX One where the market may be those who lean towards analog gear and have a higher chance of owning a tube amp.

But what do I know! I feel like I'm being a wet blanket!

 

[Mongillo19]

I dunno -- I think this product is made expressly for the already Kemper converted, and the price kinda reflects that. For folks that already have a bunch of profiles that just want a smaller form factor either for pedal-board integration, or for tossing in gig bag as an all-in-one.

Definitely (and if I ever snagged one, that would be my purpose)

Well I'd probably build a pedalboard but I'd have a bunch of profiles from previous Kemper trials

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

In terms of a "I really want a small box that is my entire rig" I find it VERY interesting. The things I do tweak to a room are tone stack, reverb mix and to a lesser degree decay, and delay feedback and mix. You've got access to all of those things straight on this unit with no screen needed. Plus, this thing is probably like 1/4 of the weight of an HX Stomp...making it a lot better for a "toss in gig bag" option.

In terms of "something I'd like to integrate in a pedalboard:", I don't find this interesting mostly from a price perspective and from a "if I want it on a pedalboard, I really only need an amp or two and there are all sorts of cool options for that now".

 

[metropolis_4]

There are two conflicting arguments going on personally would view the Player as integrating with a pedalboard. If I was looking for standalone, it would be the rack, toaster, or stage for me.

Just saying cost comparison is sort of irrelevant when they serve completely different purposes.

 

[metropolis_4]

There are some cool things here. I don’t think there is anything else out there this size that can offer gapless switching between so many amps with delay/reverb spillover

 

[JiveTurkey]

Where's @creative360 and @Deadpan

 

[Mongillo19]

How many profiles can it hold?

 

[laxu]

In terms of a "I really want a small box that is my entire rig" I find it VERY interesting. The things I do tweak to a room are tone stack, reverb mix and to a lesser degree decay, and delay feedback and mix. You've got access to all of those things straight on this unit with no screen needed.

In terms of "something I'd like to integrate in a pedalboard:", I don't find this interesting mostly from a price perspective and from a "if I want it on a pedalboard, I really only need an amp or two and their are all sorts of cool options for that now".

It might appeal to the same folks who like e.g a HX Stomp + a few pedals for a "not that big rig." The "amp/cab" does a bit of heavy lifting for e.g effects you don't use a lot.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

It might appeal to the same folks who like e.g a HX Stomp + a few pedals for a "not that big rig." The "amp/cab" does a bit of heavy lifting for e.g effects you don't use a lot.

I'm sure it will appeal to others in very different ways; all I can speak for is myself.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Where's @creative360 and @Deadpan

creative laughs in it-takes-a-brutha-a-while-to-write-25,000-words

 

[laxu]

I plugged the dimensions from the manual into Pedalplayground for a size comparison. It's kinda big - you lose less horizontal board space than IR-X or Tonex, but it's a tall boi.

Looking at this, the Friedman is actually a pretty great size for something that is a tube preamp with controls for dual channels, unless that scale is very wrong on Pedalplayground since the switches look tiny compared to the others.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

How many profiles can it hold?

10 banks of 5 rigs each

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

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I plugged the dimensions from the manual into Pedalplayground for a size comparison. It's kinda big - you lose less horizontal board space than IR-X or Tonex, but it's a tall boi.

But gain 4 effects slots, including actually good reverb and delay.