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Why are the Lee Jackson amps a ripoff?
why does a guitar amp need a milled aluminium chassis? What exactly is an Audiophile AC cable? and what effect will it have on a high gain guitar amp?

Even if those questions had valid answers, it’s still being sold for $10,000. If I ever spent that much on an amp (I wouldn’t), some sort of vintage Plexi would hold its value far better. And I can’t say I’m a huge fan of the tone of Lee Jackson’s amps.
 
why does a guitar amp need a milled aluminium chassis? What exactly is an Audiophile AC cable? and what effect will it have on a high gain guitar amp?

Even if those questions had valid answers, it’s still being sold for $10,000. If I ever spent that much on an amp (I wouldn’t), some sort of vintage Plexi would hold its value far better. And I can’t say I’m a huge fan of the tone of Lee Jackson’s amps.
Oh, the price!! Yes, I agree.

I misread it. I thought you were saying Lee Jackson was ripping off other brand's designs.
 
The power tubes sockets ARE mounted to the chassis.

This is another reply from Dave on the FB group group thread in question:
I was talking in general with this point as is clear from the previous posts. The power sockets appear to be board mounted in the picture though. They may be additionally supported but this will still stress the board when changing tubes.
 
The power sockets appear to be board mounted in the picture though. They may be additionally supported but this will still stress the board when changing tubes.
The power tubes socket may be soldered directly to the board but they are clearly mounted through the chassis.

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That's a completely reliable way to mount sockets especially on a thick board.

Have you actually tried to change tubes in this amp and saw the board flex or are you once again making your "objective analysis" from low resolution internet pictures?
 
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The power tubes socket may be soldered directly to the board but they are clearly mounted through the chassis.

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That's a completely reliable way to mount sockets especially on a thick board.

Have you actually tried to change tubes in this amp and saw the board flex or are you once again making your "objective analysis" from low resolution internet pictures?
It’s a cost saving measure.
 
It’s a cost saving measure.
Nobody said it isn't, not even Friedman himself. What he's saying is there no negative impact on quality. Maybe reading the whole FB thread would help.

Again, have you actually tried to change tubes on this system and saw the board flexing or are you just going by pictures?

Because I have first hand experience with this. My SLO30 is built the exact same way, with the exact same sockets, by the same manufacturer and at the same price point.

I've taken it out of the chassis to check the bias and tried different tubes while I was at it. There is absolutely zero flex on the board with the way they are mounted. They are directly mounted to the chassis only recessed and soldered into the board. It's as solid as mounting them on top the chassis.

But you saw the pictures so you know better. OK. I give up. There's clearly no rabbit coming out of this hat.
 
Nobody said it isn't, not even Friedman himself. What he's saying is there no negative impact on quality. Maybe reading the whole FB thread would help.

Again, have you actually tried to change tubes on this system and saw the board flexing or are you just going by pictures?

Because I have first hand experience with this. My SLO30 is built the exact same way, with the exact same sockets, by the same manufacturer and at the same price point.

I've taken it out of the chassis to check the bias and tried different tubes while I was at it. There is absolutely zero flex on the board with the way they are mounted. They are directly mounted to the chassis only recessed and soldered into the board. It's as solid as mounting them on top the chassis.

But you saw the pictures so you know better. OK. I give up. There's clearly no rabbit coming out of this hat.
I have played plenty of Friedman amps. On the whole I like them. The new Soldano amps too and yes I know where they are coming from ( not as good as the originals though, slightly less dynamic IMO ) but drop the chassis in an original SLO or X88R and you will see art not a photocopy of it.
 
Again, have you actually tried to change tubes on this system and saw the board flexing or are you just going by pictures?
It is pretty common for boards to flex when tubes are mounted directly to them. The 6505+ I just got, the preamp board is basically like a trampoline !!! Loads of amps with board mounted tube sockets flex. It is just physics. I don't even think it is particularly a bad thing. Just don't be a d******d when removing and putting tubes in. Simple.

This thread is hilarious.
"I don't like it. It's too expensive." 😭
Nobody really cares. Don't buy it.
Nobody cares that you think nobody really cares.

What is actually hilarious though is out of the thousands and thousands of threads all across the internet talking about XYZ amp being too expensive, or not high quality enough, or whatever else... you chose this thread to get involved in. OKAY FANGURL.
 
It is pretty common for boards to flex when tubes are mounted directly to them. The 6505+ I just got, the preamp board is basically like a trampoline !!! Loads of amps with board mounted tube sockets flex. It is just physics. I don't even think it is particularly a bad thing. Just don't be a d******d when removing and putting tubes in. Simple.


Nobody cares that you think nobody really cares.

What is actually hilarious though is out of the thousands and thousands of threads all across the internet talking about XYZ amp being too expensive, or not high quality enough, or whatever else... you chose this thread to get involved in. OKAY FANGURL.
Yeah I seem to recall that from my first gen 5150.
 
I have played plenty of Friedman amps. On the whole I like them. The new Soldano amps too and yes I know where they are coming from ( not as good as the originals though, slightly less dynamic IMO ) but drop the chassis in an original SLO or X88R and you will see art not a photocopy of it.
Well I wouldn’t have paid SLO money after they didn’t have DeYoung iron, and I actually like Onetics.
But whatever that BAD stuff has…pass.
 
why does a guitar amp need a milled aluminium chassis? What exactly is an Audiophile AC cable? and what effect will it have on a high gain guitar amp?

Even if those questions had valid answers, it’s still being sold for $10,000. If I ever spent that much on an amp (I wouldn’t), some sort of vintage Plexi would hold its value far better. And I can’t say I’m a huge fan of the tone of Lee Jackson’s amps.
Man..that amp sounds like ass paste too boot.
 
It is pretty common for boards to flex when tubes are mounted directly to them. The 6505+ I just got, the preamp board is basically like a trampoline !!! Loads of amps with board mounted tube sockets flex. It is just physics. I don't even think it is particularly a bad thing. Just don't be a d******d when removing and putting tubes in. Simple.
It's still bad design. Not the tubes mounted on the board, but the flexing. It can't be that expensive to add a few more screw holes and posts to properly support it so it doesn't budge when changing tubes. The Marshall JCM2000 DSL50 was also like a trampoline for the preamp tubes.

Tube amps seem to be fairly resistant to bad design though. Nobody can argue that e.g a Peavey Classic 30 with its tri-fold PCB held together by jumper wires is a good design, yet somehow it isn't known for failures in the same way as a Marshall JCM2000 DSL401 or Fender HRD.
 
My friend has one of the BAD made SLO100's - at least I think that is what it is - and it is one of the best amps I've ever heard. Gave me supreme GAS.
As were the original SLO100s, and the 2203 that Mike modded, as the Majors he modded and the one channel SLO he made with DeYoung tranny in Avenger disguise.
I met him first in 88 when he still worked out of his house.
And the while BAD concept just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

But no I’m not in the market for anything from BAD, but I was thinking Tone King combo for a Minute.
 
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Marshall JCM2000 DSL401
Those 1st gen DSL's had pretty severe arc-ing problems within the circuit. My amp tech told me he's said tons of them with scorch marks and burnt out chunks of PCB and all sorts! The newer ones aren't as bad I don't think.
 
It is pretty common for boards to flex when tubes are mounted directly to them. The 6505+ I just got, the preamp board is basically like a trampoline !!! Loads of amps with board mounted tube sockets flex. It is just physics. I don't even think it is particularly a bad thing. Just don't be a d******d when removing and putting tubes in. Simple.
I know that, but that's not how the power tubes are mounted on this amp. The sockets are screwed to the chassis, just recessed and soldered to the board. It's a different mounting method than the 6505+ etc...

Here's a picture of my SLO30 power tube sockets, the Plex is the same way, there is no flexing at all.

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