Purging all my gear and getting an Axe FX 3

JiveTurkey said:
He's waiting on the Amp-X last I knew. Hope it works out he wants it to.
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I had a Amp 1 Silver and liked it - but I'm happier with the Catalyst 100.

I've gotten so lazy that unpacking the Amp 1, running power to it and plugging in a speaker cab just seemed like an unnecessary hassle!

But I like Blug's approach to things and am curious to try out the Amp X at some point.
 
GuitarDave said:
I had a Amp 1 Silver and liked it - but I'm happier with the Catalyst 100.

I've gotten so lazy that unpacking the Amp 1, running power to it and plugging in a speaker cab just seemed like an unnecessary hassle!

But I like Blug's approach to things and am curious to try out the Amp X at some point.
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I would most likely break off the clunky hinge. And the pay for updates model that has gotten talked about a time or two really doesn't trip my trigger. But it will probably sound good.
 
Impatiently waiting for the delivery all week...


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JiveTurkey said:
I would most likely break off the clunky hinge. And the pay for updates model that has gotten talked about a time or two really doesn't trip my trigger. But it will probably sound good.
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Yeah I'm not fond of the hinge thing either even if it makes sense to protect the LCDs in transit. I hope they make it easy to just take off completely.

I'm okay with the paid model because it gives back to the designers of the gear getting modeled and if they work with Blug then could result in more authentic results too when BluGuitar doesn't have to reverse engineer everything.

That said, I've been messing with the FM3 v6.00 betas this week, plugged into my BluGuitar Amp 1 ME as a poweramp and into my Bluetone 4x10 cab. I can dial the FM3 to sound like the BluGuitar or the BluGuitar to sound pretty much like any Fender/Marshall based model on the FM3. In this setup there is so little difference between the two.

I'm mostly evaluating if I want to keep the FM3 for effects and sell my Strymon etc pedals or vice versa. The fx on the FM3 of course sound great but I had a really annoying time trying to make the Multitap Delay's Quad Tape delay do the things I wanted whereas doing the same things on my Strymon Volante is so easy. Using FM3-Edit made it a lot easier but I just don't like having to rely on having a laptop right next to this rig.

The BluGuitar Amp X might hit in the right spot between easy to use and having all you need for a live rig. I'm not interested in it as a recording tool or fx box but for those whose needs are more live-oriented it should be fantastic.

I am more likely to stick to my Axe-Fx 3 into studio monitors and maybe build a stereo poweramp + cabs rig around it in the future.
 
laxu said:
I'm mostly evaluating if I want to keep the FM3 for effects and sell my Strymon etc pedals or vice versa. The fx on the FM3 of course sound great but I had a really annoying time trying to make the Multitap Delay's Quad Tape delay do the things I wanted whereas doing the same things on my Strymon Volante is so easy. Using FM3-Edit made it a lot easier but I just don't like having to rely on having a laptop right next to this rig.
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Hi @laxu ! It's good to see you here 👋

What happened to your helmet? You look... different.

I know what you mean about the Volante vs the FAS Multitap Quad delay. Of course the Multitap sounds excellent, but the Volante is just such an easy to use UI and it's effortless to make tweaks on the fly. The Volante a great creative tool. I am in the same quandary.
 
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laxu said:
Yeah I'm not fond of the hinge thing either even if it makes sense to protect the LCDs in transit. I hope they make it easy to just take off completely.

I'm okay with the paid model because it gives back to the designers of the gear getting modeled and if they work with Blug then could result in more authentic results too when BluGuitar doesn't have to reverse engineer everything.

That said, I've been messing with the FM3 v6.00 betas this week, plugged into my BluGuitar Amp 1 ME as a poweramp and into my Bluetone 4x10 cab. I can dial the FM3 to sound like the BluGuitar or the BluGuitar to sound pretty much like any Fender/Marshall based model on the FM3. In this setup there is so little difference between the two.

I'm mostly evaluating if I want to keep the FM3 for effects and sell my Strymon etc pedals or vice versa. The fx on the FM3 of course sound great but I had a really annoying time trying to make the Multitap Delay's Quad Tape delay do the things I wanted whereas doing the same things on my Strymon Volante is so easy. Using FM3-Edit made it a lot easier but I just don't like having to rely on having a laptop right next to this rig.

The BluGuitar Amp X might hit in the right spot between easy to use and having all you need for a live rig. I'm not interested in it as a recording tool or fx box but for those whose needs are more live-oriented it should be fantastic.

I am more likely to stick to my Axe-Fx 3 into studio monitors and maybe build a stereo poweramp + cabs rig around it in the future.
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Welcome to the forum, bro!

(In case you weren’t aware, my dual personality is also RevDrucifer)
 
laxu said:
Yeah I'm not fond of the hinge thing either even if it makes sense to protect the LCDs in transit. I hope they make it easy to just take off completely.

I'm okay with the paid model because it gives back to the designers of the gear getting modeled and if they work with Blug then could result in more authentic results too when BluGuitar doesn't have to reverse engineer everything.

That said, I've been messing with the FM3 v6.00 betas this week, plugged into my BluGuitar Amp 1 ME as a poweramp and into my Bluetone 4x10 cab. I can dial the FM3 to sound like the BluGuitar or the BluGuitar to sound pretty much like any Fender/Marshall based model on the FM3. In this setup there is so little difference between the two.

I'm mostly evaluating if I want to keep the FM3 for effects and sell my Strymon etc pedals or vice versa. The fx on the FM3 of course sound great but I had a really annoying time trying to make the Multitap Delay's Quad Tape delay do the things I wanted whereas doing the same things on my Strymon Volante is so easy. Using FM3-Edit made it a lot easier but I just don't like having to rely on having a laptop right next to this rig.

The BluGuitar Amp X might hit in the right spot between easy to use and having all you need for a live rig. I'm not interested in it as a recording tool or fx box but for those whose needs are more live-oriented it should be fantastic.

I am more likely to stick to my Axe-Fx 3 into studio monitors and maybe build a stereo poweramp + cabs rig around it in the future.
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Welcome!!
 
Welcome @laxu !

Regarding Blug's "pay as you go" (or whatever you want to call it business model) - I think it would be intriguing if the initial price point were much lower than competitors. But if it's going to be priced the same as, say, the FM9 or Helix, right out of the gates, which obviously comes with thousands or hundreds of amps and effects, but Amp1 is going to have a fraction and then you pay for more........ I think it's just too late for that business model. Precedent and buyer expectation has been set.

But we'll see.

Oh - and yes - some industrial designer contact him and do something about that flip up lid. I mean WTF?
 
jellodog said:
Hi @laxu ! It's good to see you here 👋

What happend to your helmet? You look... different.

I know what you mean about the Volante vs the FAS Multitap Quad delay. Of course the Multitap sounds excellent, but the Volante is just such an easy to use UI and it's effortless to make tweaks on the fly. The Volante a great creative tool. I am in the same quandary.
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Thanks!

The cat ate the helmet. ;)

Yeah the sounds are there on the FAS Multitap delay, no question about it. But just doing something like "make this delay line quieter" is a chore to do whereas it's one button press on the Volante. That's where pedals will always win over "here's everything in a generic UI meant to work for everything" of multifx.
 
laxu said:
Yeah I'm not fond of the hinge thing either even if it makes sense to protect the LCDs in transit. I hope they make it easy to just take off completely.

I'm okay with the paid model because it gives back to the designers of the gear getting modeled and if they work with Blug then could result in more authentic results too when BluGuitar doesn't have to reverse engineer everything.

That said, I've been messing with the FM3 v6.00 betas this week, plugged into my BluGuitar Amp 1 ME as a poweramp and into my Bluetone 4x10 cab. I can dial the FM3 to sound like the BluGuitar or the BluGuitar to sound pretty much like any Fender/Marshall based model on the FM3. In this setup there is so little difference between the two.

I'm mostly evaluating if I want to keep the FM3 for effects and sell my Strymon etc pedals or vice versa. The fx on the FM3 of course sound great but I had a really annoying time trying to make the Multitap Delay's Quad Tape delay do the things I wanted whereas doing the same things on my Strymon Volante is so easy. Using FM3-Edit made it a lot easier but I just don't like having to rely on having a laptop right next to this rig.

The BluGuitar Amp X might hit in the right spot between easy to use and having all you need for a live rig. I'm not interested in it as a recording tool or fx box but for those whose needs are more live-oriented it should be fantastic.

I am more likely to stick to my Axe-Fx 3 into studio monitors and maybe build a stereo poweramp + cabs rig around it in the future.
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Running everything into the same cabinet really does homogenize the sound quite a bit, but I think for me that can be a big help. For years when I get annoyed by the sound of the modeler, I look for different IR's or a different amp model or change the EQ/cuts, etc. But I think now it would have been a lot simpler to just run into a guitar speaker.

Even the last couple of days, I was trying to get a good tone out of IR's into monitors and it's not quite happening, but plugging back into the Catalyst 60 (cheap as it is), much better.

I saw yesterday there's a Powercab Plus on clearance for $400 at the local shop, but I'm half tempted to keep an eye out for another Cat 60 on the cheap and throw in a Vintage 30 or something. Got a V-Type in mine now. I mean, I could get a stereo power amp for a few hundred used, and pick up a pair of 1x12 cabs...but I'm not sure for low volumes it would be way better than the Cat 60 amps.

And now that I'm looking, there's a used one in clean condition at a nearby store, and I need to return a couple pedals there anyway...
 
Jarick said:
Running everything into the same cabinet really does homogenize the sound quite a bit, but I think for me that can be a big help. For years when I get annoyed by the sound of the modeler, I look for different IR's or a different amp model or change the EQ/cuts, etc. But I think now it would have been a lot simpler to just run into a guitar speaker.
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It absolutely does, to the point that it is entirely pointless to have hundreds of amp models. They all do sound good though.
 
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