Profiling is here to stay. The important thing about NAM, like Cliff says, is it is open source, which makes it relatively easy to include profiling that has a large library from day one in any modeler from now on.
NAM support announced by Fractal Audio
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Richard_G
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I totally disagree. And even if you hate captures, NAM has been a contributing factor in forcing every white box modeling tech company to up their game.
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I for one plan to join you in continuing to beg for a legit MP1 model even post-NAM support! :)AxeFX IV Confirmed
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Hell @FractalAudio copy the JMP1 one model, tweak it by ear, and TELL me its an MP1....
Re NAM: FWIW, I think it is a great move in general. Capturing is table stakes, NAM looks set to become something of a standard and having it as a block in the Fractal's virtual world to move about and route up will be absolutely great for folks who have their own gear to capture.
I'd say that the Fractal models in current gen *easily* compete with real amplifiers in just about any context. However, after getting a QC and ToneX I do find I prefer caps of my own gear at my own settings for the sake of convenience sometimes. Not to mention the cases like Cliff cites where there just is no model anywhere of the amp/chain I am using. Having a virtual block of it to lay down into the Fractal Gridiverse is going to be cool.
Might be time to off the QC soon. LOL.
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Mongillo19
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Yeah it's a wild take that it's just hype and to label it as the most hyped thing on the internet is even more absurd
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That's not the issue. I have a Kemper and a Tonex as well as my Fractals, and it's just another path to the same destination. It's just the latest cool new fad to talk about.
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I couldn't care less about NAM support......I mean I guess it's cool to have. I just hope the IV can run purchased Dyna-Cab packs without CabLab.
NAM is open source. Tonex and Kemper profiling are not. That's what's different about NAM. Like Cliff said, it really is something new and different, so IMHO it's a stretch to call it a fad.
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My view of NAM (I am biased though) is that it allows me to get more worth from my spent money on great analog amps and pedals etc, which in turn then supports the analog industry rather assists it's decline, all whilst I get increased benefits of better compatibility within the DAW and digital hardware realm, which also supports those industries too, and also allows for more of a community to emerge that other wise wouldn't exist. The world is a better place with NAM (and other similar tech) than otherwise it would be without.
Of course, if you aren't that bothered by NAM or whatever, then that is totally cool, so be it.
I disagree that it's overhyped or a fad, it's a great tool that many of us really enjoy using and building new tools with.
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Thinking about it more, this is kind of a best case scenario for everyone. If you’re a capture-holic you have a solution to integrate them into the Fractalverse, and if you’re not, you don’t have to worry about FAS committing dev time to a first party solution. (That will get AB’d to death and you’ll be committed to improving indefinitely) FAS keeps modeling and NAM’ers keep NAM’ing. Everyone wins.
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Everything new and different gets a ton of attention online in the beginning, and people lose their minds over it even if they have no idea what it's about. Just like true bypass, point to point, latency, high fructose corn syrup, MSGs, and whole grains.
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Your stance might be a bit too positive, but I kind of get your point. My Tonex captures of newly acquired analog gear have expanded my practical use of said gear.
(So far, I’ve only been a consumer of others’ NAM captures, but I’ll be dipping my toes into that as well.)
Mongillo19
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And white box modeling? You just aren't making any sense.
Latency is just a fad? I suppose you have the same opinion of gravity?
Every once in a while, new things do deserve some attention and shouldn't be blindly dismissed. Fortunately for us, Cliff doesn't share your cynical outlook.
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Both NAM and Tonex are awesome, definitely great tools.
Let me know if you need any support using Tone3000 or setting up a local trainer if you do get involved in capturing with NAM.
More than welcome!
Yeah, I am overly positive about NAM, but it has had a huge positive impact for myself and many thousands of others.
Maybe it's not that interesting to some, but that's fine.
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Similar to what Cliff was alluding to, maybe if more manufacturers include things like NAM, then it'll help put an end to the following cycle:
1. Geartuber and/or djent guitarist talks up a brand new amp from a new boutique brand that started 2 years ago and no one has ever heard of
2. Geartube consumer with no original thoughts or feelings of their own decides they now can't live without this amp they just now heard of
3. Geartube consumers endlessly request this new amp, which by the way sounds just like another hot-rodded Marshall flavor
4. New amp flavor of the month is implemented
5. People rejoice and then immediately go right back to just using the HBE model instead.
6. Repeat
I'd rather see companies adding new features and tweaking their algorithms than waiting time adding more amps that sound 95% the same as your go-to Marshall/Mesa/ENGL/Fender whatever.
1. Geartuber and/or djent guitarist talks up a brand new amp from a new boutique brand that started 2 years ago and no one has ever heard of
2. Geartube consumer with no original thoughts or feelings of their own decides they now can't live without this amp they just now heard of
3. Geartube consumers endlessly request this new amp, which by the way sounds just like another hot-rodded Marshall flavor
4. New amp flavor of the month is implemented
5. People rejoice and then immediately go right back to just using the HBE model instead.
6. Repeat
I'd rather see companies adding new features and tweaking their algorithms than waiting time adding more amps that sound 95% the same as your go-to Marshall/Mesa/ENGL/Fender whatever.
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Hot take: the Freidman amps should have went on that same flavor of the month and forget list.
Richard_G
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Are you seriously claiming that you see NO benefit in true bypass and not even in low latency? That's a weird take.
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