NAM: Neural Amp Modeler

[Orvillain]

Either way, it's another hint NAM support may very likely come to the Stadium platform eventually. Pretty sweet.

There's no real link between Line6 and the Yamaha Innovation Fund, from what I can tell. They're owned by the same parent company, indeed. But that doesn't mean much.

Although yes, Yamaha have to be getting something out of the deal - they're not just going to fund companies without some return.

 

[FrankyFire]

Either way, it's another hint NAM support may very likely come to the Stadium platform eventually. Pretty sweet.

I highly doubt that. It's probably using the same or very similar technology in the background, but to them as a company it's probably more about standing out and having a USP. Therefor they always point and market out their "awesome" proprietary stuff (am I the only one to who "proprietary" has a negative connotation?).
Line6 does great stuff, good products with long term support. But they're definitely not into opening anything up. The pressure has to be high for them to "natively" integrate NAM in some shape or form.

 

[2dor]

I highly doubt that. It's probably using the same or very similar technology in the background, but to them as a company it's probably more about standing out and having a USP. Therefor they always point and market out their "awesome" proprietary stuff (am I the only one to who "proprietary" has a negative connotation?).
Line6 does great stuff, good products with long term support. But they're definitely not into opening anything up. The pressure has to be high for them to "natively" integrate NAM in some shape or form.

Eric didn't rule it out though and with Fractal already disclosing they're going to add NAM support, I think L6 will very likely do the same (even if only to not loose the mindshare imho).

 

[Orvillain]

It is certainly possible. I'd say one day it might even be possible to have generic weight mapping technology, that takes all of these platforms and essentially makes them all cross-compatible. That would be kinda cool.

 

[FrankyFire]

Eric didn't rule it out though and with Fractal already disclosing they're going to add NAM support, I think L6 will very likely do the same (even if only to not loose the mindshare imho).

Would be great! I'm also curious to see if they add it only to the new line or to the older ones as well. My assumption is that the HX Stomp for example won't get the update if it happens, probably the DSP is too weak.

 

[2dor]

It is certainly possible. I'd say one day it might even be possible to have generic weight mapping technology, that takes all of these platforms and essentially makes them all cross-compatible. That would be kinda cool.

That would actually be amazing.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

Tone3000 living it's best life right now.

Yamaha:

 

[FrankyFire]

It is certainly possible. I'd say one day it might even be possible to have generic weight mapping technology, that takes all of these platforms and essentially makes them all cross-compatible. That would be kinda cool.

Indeed...from a consumer perspective. As a company that would sound frightening to me, as there is not much left to separate the different products from each other.
There's still AMP modelling with twisting knobs, which still cannot be accomplished using NAM. But I think the market for that might be way smaller.

 

[Sascha Franck]

My assumption is that the HX Stomp for example won't get the update if it happens, probably the DSP is too weak.

I don't think the OG HX series will see any updates anymore.

 

[2dor]

There's still AMP modelling with twisting knobs, which still cannot be accomplished using NAM. But I think the market for that might be way smaller.

That's not an accurate statement at all; have a look here:

The first publicly-available parametric Neural Amp Model

Today, I'm releasing ParametricOD, a plugin that uses NAM's parametric modeling capabilities to give you a model of my overdrive pedal that is accurate across the full range of the pedal's knobs and switches.Get it here: Users | Neural Amp Modeler.GUI for the plugin.The plugin is available in...

www.neuralampmodeler.com

That's already 2 years old & folks like Two Notes and @ArteraDSP have already done parametric models using neural-networks.

 

[Richard_G]

A new blog post has just been published on Tone3000.

TLDR: TONE3000 and Steve Atkinson are partnering to launch the next generation of Neural Amp Modeler. It's called A2.

Read all about it here: https://www.tone3000.com/blog/a2-next-generation-neural-amp-modeler

«When A2 launches, we'll retrain every single NAM profile uploaded to TONE3000 to support the new architecture. Hundreds of thousands of tones, from vintage Fender amps to modern high-gain rigs, classic bass preamps to boutique pedals, will be available as A2 models from day one.

Both A1 and A2 versions will remain available, giving you flexibility to use whichever works best for your workflow and hardware.»

@2dor:
As I understand it, this means that your free «community packs» on T3K will be retrained to be A2 versions by T3K. What will happen to the more extended packs on your Ko-fi shop? Will they be retrained as well?

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

«When A2 launches, we'll retrain every single NAM profile uploaded to TONE3000 to support the new architecture. Hundreds of thousands of tones, from vintage Fender amps to modern high-gain rigs, classic bass preamps to boutique pedals, will be available as A2 models from day one.

Both A1 and A2 versions will remain available, giving you flexibility to use whichever works best for your workflow and hardware.»

@2dor:
As I understand it, this means that your free «community packs» on T3K will be retrained to be A2 versions by T3K. What will happen to the more extended packs on your Ko-fi shop? Will they be retrained as well?

I'll get back to you on this as soon as poss.

 

[2dor]

«When A2 launches, we'll retrain every single NAM profile uploaded to TONE3000 to support the new architecture. Hundreds of thousands of tones, from vintage Fender amps to modern high-gain rigs, classic bass preamps to boutique pedals, will be available as A2 models from day one.

Both A1 and A2 versions will remain available, giving you flexibility to use whichever works best for your workflow and hardware.»

@2dor:
As I understand it, this means that your free «community packs» on T3K will be retrained to be A2 versions by T3K. What will happen to the more extended packs on your Ko-fi shop? Will they be retrained as well?

The packs I posted there are sold as-is.

That said, I'm 99.99% sure they'll get the A2 treatment one way or another. Any upcoming packs after A2 is publicly available will leverage A2 straight up.

FWIW, the REVyHI and xSTD are still bangers - I do wonder how A2 will compare against those. I did see new activation functions being used in Steve's recent post (3 hours ago) and that SiLu one is pretty great for a smooth, natural response:

NeuralAmpModelerCore v0.4.0.rc1 is released

I've put up a release candidate for NeuralAmpModelerCore v0.4.0. You can access it here:https://github.com/sdatkinson/NeuralAmpModelerCore/releases/tag/v0.4.0.rc1This is a release candidate and is hot off the press. If you encounter any bugs, please either create a bug report or get in contact...

www.neuralampmodeler.com