NAM: Neural Amp Modeler

Up to date M1 machine here, the stand alone latest NAM App crashes at startup most of the time, it works as expected in Logic.
@Elf strange that it crashes "most of the time". Since some assets folder is suposed to be missing, my guess is that it would crash all the time or not at all. Im surrprised that such a bug would exist for more than a year, 0.7.13 has been released in december 2024. Can any mac user confirm the standalone behaviour so we are sure everyone is exeperiencing the same thing? I can open the issue eventually if anyone can provide the crash log so i can attach it.
 
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@Elf strange that it crashes "most of the time". Since some assets folder is suposed to be missing, my guess is that it would crash all the time or not at all. Im surrprised that such a bug would exist for more than a year, 0.7.13 has been released in december 2024. Can anyone confirm the standalone behaviour so we are sure everyone is exeperiencing the same thing? I can open the issue eventually if anyone can provide the crash log so i can attach it.
Speaking of Windows 11 here, I've never got the official standalone NAM app to work properly on any of my machines. With a fresh install everything seems to be fine until one day random crashes, freezes or audio issues appear - eventually the app wouldn't even launch. A proper clean reinstall has never fixed the issue either so I've given up on it entirely.

NAM Universal has been working flawlessly and is my go to for standalone NAM captures.

EDIT: I'll look into making a bug report once I have time to investigate this issue on my end as well, perhaps I'm not alone with this issue.
 
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Speaking of Windows 11 here, I've never got the official standalone NAM app to work properly on any of my machines. With a fresh install everything seems to be fine until one day random crashes, freezes or audio issues appear - eventually the app wouldn't even launch. A proper clean reinstall has never fixed the issue either so I've given up on it entirely.

NAM Universal has been working flawlessly and is my go to for standalone NAM captures.

EDIT: I'll look into making a bug report once I have time to investigate this issue on my end as well, perhaps I'm not alone with this issue.

It's a known upstream bug with iPlug2 (framework used for standalone and plugin).

The workaround for standalone is:
Go to this location (replacing your computer user name) and delete the settings.ini file you find in that folder, and then you can restart the standalone and it'll be fully reset.
C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Local\NeuralAmpModeler
 
Pretty awesome update on the cards. I assume accuracy will increase and hardware compatibility will be easier with the new a2 architecture.

 
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TONE3000 will also re-train all A1 models that were originally trained on their platform so that you can have their A2 equivalents immediately in the usual ways (in your browser, via their API, etc). The A1 models will stay available.

As well as all the great things coming up, this is a really nice touch. =)
 
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Pretty awesome update on the cards. I assume accuracy will increase and hardware compatibility will be easier with the new a2 architecture.


More power to Steve ... period

I would however respectfully suggest a healthy reality check is needed or people need to stop pissing in his pocket:-


" A2 will be industry-informed Few technologies in audio are used in more places than NAM - the only that I can think of is impulse responses "

:facepalm

Just off the top of my head

- DAW's
- Midi
- Midi Instruments
- Ethernet Audio
- Dante
- Madi
- Samples
- Plugins all formats
- Software / Hardware Component Modelers
- FRFR Systems
- Kemper Profiles
- Tonex Capture
- QC Profiles
- ASIO Drivers
- CoreAudio

The list goes on. Dude needs to get out more.
 
Pretty awesome update on the cards. I assume accuracy will increase and hardware compatibility will be easier with the new a2 architecture.

This is good, but a lot of it sounds exactly like what Tonex V2 already does. Even its test signal is a combination of bleeps and bloops with various guitar tones, and it takes about that 3m period too.

Still, I'm all for more devices being able to support the same captures and run them without conversion to a proprietary format.
 
More power to Steve ... period

I would however respectfully suggest a healthy reality check is needed or people need to stop pissing in his pocket:-


" A2 will be industry-informed Few technologies in audio are used in more places than NAM - the only that I can think of is impulse responses "

:facepalm

Just off the top of my head

- DAW's
- Midi
- Midi Instruments
- Ethernet Audio
- Dante
- Madi
- Samples
- Plugins all formats
- Software / Hardware Component Modelers
- FRFR Systems
- Kemper Profiles
- Tonex Capture
- QC Profiles
- ASIO Drivers
- CoreAudio

The list goes on. Dude needs to get out more.


Last I checked, and I could be wrong here, approximately:

~200,000 NAM models on Tone3000
~60,000 tonex models now on ToneNet
~25,000 kemper rigs on rig exchange



That being said, there are probably more illegal copies of FL Studio out in the wild than all of that combined.
 
I don't know how widespread NAM really is. I've not seen any numbers. But I know for sure there are companies using NAM for their nonlinear saturations and distortion elements in their plugins. Go and read the about boxes of some of them. You'll see the libraries they often end up using.
 
Last I checked, and I could be wrong here, approximately:

~200,000 NAM models on Tone3000
~60,000 tonex models now on ToneNet
~25,000 kemper rigs on rig exchange



That being said, there are probably more illegal copies of FL Studio out in the wild than all of that combined.

Hey Dom. I don't doubt your numbers - but respectively, they have no relevance to what Steve was saying.

"Few technologies in audio are used in more places than NAM" ... is just objectively and factually wrong - embarrassingly so - I think my very short and quickly complied list makes this clear.

Reminds me of his equally embarrassing "parametric NAM Captures" post 1 or 2 years ago.

*Not* knocking NAM ..... but it seems someone has started to believe the hype being poured on them -and/or- their own growing self-opinion is clouding reality.

Didn't meant to de-rail the thread - I just wanted to point out the sheer stupidity of his attempted self-aggrandizing statement.

Thats all :)

Back to Normal Programming :)
 
*Not* knocking NAM ..... but it seems someone has started to believe the hype being poured on them -and/or- their own growing self-opinion is clouding reality.
I have no more buy in to nam than I do for a bunch of other evolving platforms (TMP, stl, stadium (when I get on lol)). But I genuinely think Steve’s contributions to the audio world are undeniable. Not only has he democratised “capturing” at a high level, it’s also out there open source for anyone to go and grab and do what they want with it. How often do we see this kind of thing?

Countless plugins and pedals are using the tech, other audio companies have used him for consulting to incorporate the tech into their own products as well.

I can’t understand how you could criticise a nice guy of the industry like that honestly. It’s like saying how dare cliff have a high opinion of himself… it’s pretty well deserved for both of them imo.
 
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