Mesa Boogie talking about the possibility of a new TriAxis

[JiveTurkey]

While I agree, and I would have wanted IIC to be available on channel 2 and channel 3 instead of a cloned Fat available on channel 1 and 2, having Crunch and VII mode available on channel 2 works great for me. If I set channel 1 to clean, channel 2 to crunch, I can then pick between my amp being a Mark IIC or a Mark IV by setting channel 3 to that mode. More productively, I set channel 2 to VII mode and boost it like a rectifier, then use MIDI and my effects to go back and forth between a boosted VII mode and my pick of either IIC or IV mode. Generally I just set channel 3 to IIC mode as I prefer it’s bigger, less compressed sound, but sometimes I want it just a bit heavier so I set it to IV mode. Live or at full-clip I’ll take IIC over IV for a wider tone with a touch less compression.

I kinda want another VII and give it a more "use it with the knowledge of what irritates me (admittedly a bit irrationally) so adjust approach accordingly" effort. I probably can't justify another Mark at the moment, however

 

[laxu]

With both the Mark V and VII it's always something on the wrong channel.

While I can get the Crunch to sound kinda similar to IIC or IV, it's still less gainy. I'd rather have two ch3s on the Mark V 90.

Yet at the same time I do like the Edge and Crunch so you can't really win. Losing the Tweed on the VII is also a bummer, but I don't think most will miss the Mark 1 mode. I wish there was a mod to make that mode less bassy so it would be easier to work with.

 

[EOengineer]

but I don't think most will miss the Mark 1 mode. I wish there was a mod to make that mode less bassy so it would be easier to work with.

There was a factory only mod. It was called the Mark IIA.

 

[nightlight]

How so?

It's what often happens when you make products that are similar. Often, these will be at different price points.

So if you could have sold say 50 units of the more expensive one, due to some customers saying, "Hey, I'm sure this less premium model is as good" - with the Mark VII also having a Mark IV mode, which is the highest gain one, I think - you may only sell 40 units of the more expensive model and 10 of the less expensive one, thereby reducing your revenues.

You should also factor in the cost of producing multiple versus streamlining production at your factory for a few models.

 

[nicolasrivera]

It's what often happens when you make products that are similar. Often, these will be at different price points.

So if you could have sold say 50 units of the more expensive one, due to some customers saying, "Hey, I'm sure this less premium model is as good" - with the Mark VII also having a Mark IV mode, which is the highest gain one, I think - you may only sell 40 units of the more expensive model and 10 of the less expensive one, thereby reducing your revenues.

You should also factor in the cost of producing multiple versus streamlining production at your factory for a few models.

Well you could say that about most MESA products that have a MkIV miode.

A full MkIV amp reissue is something that would sell even better than the MkIIC+ if given a full MIDI treatment and IRs.

 

[EOengineer]

Well you could say that about most MESA products that have a MkIV miode.

A full MkIV amp reissue is something that would sell even better than the MkIIC+ if given a full MIDI treatment and IRs.

A year ago I would have said it would be ridiculous to expect Mesa to reissue an amp like the Mark IV that is still readily available for ~$1500 used at any given moment, but then they reissued the 90s Dual Rectifier...so what the hell do I know. If they did reissue the IV, I would not expect any significant new features (like MIDI). Pretty sure that's only for the new stuff.

 

[paisleywookiee]

A year ago I would have said it would be ridiculous to expect Mesa to reissue an amp like the Mark IV that is still readily available for ~$1500 used at any given moment, but then they reissued the 90s Dual Rectifier...so what the hell do I know. If they did reissue the IV, I would not expect any significant new features (like MIDI). Pretty sure that's only for the new stuff.

Yup. The ONLY changes they appear to be doing are making the loop more pedal-friendly, by doing pedal level, serial. If they did a Mark IV reissue, it would be no more than this.

 

[Desertdweller]

Well you could say that about most MESA products that have a MkIV miode.

The most tragic flaw of the original Mark IV was that it came with only Mark IV mode. They made sure to change that going forward.

 

[Desertdweller]

Yup. The ONLY changes they appear to be doing are making the loop more pedal-friendly, by doing pedal level, serial. If they did a Mark IV reissue, it would be no more than this.

Mark IV loop is already serial. IIRC it had a neat feature where it would accept stereo FX returns and you could output them to another power amp like the Simul-Satellite. Incredibly cool design for the time.