JerEvil
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No way this will be sub $1k US. If I had to guess, and I’m just spitballing here I’d say $1799-1999
Headfirst Alta P1
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PurpleRack
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Alta > KSR 100R > Suhr RL > Recto DynaCab
Hoping to get some time this weekend to blast it through some cabs and try out the Two Notes backend.
Do you by chance know what cab Jim paired with it? (Or ODs etc) Curious how he runs it.
Burger
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He was using an IR of his OG Orange cab loaded up in a Quad Cortex, so it was the proto Alta pre into the QC. But now he's got the DynIR capture of that same Orange cab the plan is he'll be using the Two notes DynIR.
He runs the pre in ch3, modern mode, comp on, gain on 10, mids and treb at 6 and bass pretty much all the way up. No boosts in front.
He runs the pre in ch3, modern mode, comp on, gain on 10, mids and treb at 6 and bass pretty much all the way up. No boosts in front.
2dor
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Currently eyeing one and I have a question about the poweramp modelling in the unit. I know Two Notes have their own PA simulation but on the P1 product page I see the following listed. Have Two Notes replicated the poweramp in the Alta?
I had a similar question here. I have no clue if this is desirable from a product or business standpoint, but since the value is so high already from this unit, I thought I'd give this a "feature request" chance. If possible, any way to unlock the two notes "power amp" sim section (preamp section not needed of course)? This allows the P1 to be the ultimate (I mean, probably already is) "real tube preamp" / virtual hybrid setup. That way, we could disable the power amp section if we wanted (or substitute a different two notes tube model for the power amp). This makes the P1 the ultimate brains of a real tube preamp system.
You could then do things like plugging the output of full amp head through a load box, or a Syn20IR (cabs disabled) into the return loop of the P1 (since that already has the EL84 power amp built in), and disabling the power amp section of the P1 embedded. Or use a Syn2 and plug the output into the P1 running a different tube sim on the TN embedded.
The purchase for the Alta preamp is a no brainer buy on it's own for me, but enabling the power amp section of the TN embedded (to disable or swap tube sims) would just make it the ultimate pre amp brain for any system!
Thanks for hearing out the request, I can't wait for my number on the waitlist either way. The preamp is fantastic and the integration seems top tier.
You could then do things like plugging the output of full amp head through a load box, or a Syn20IR (cabs disabled) into the return loop of the P1 (since that already has the EL84 power amp built in), and disabling the power amp section of the P1 embedded. Or use a Syn2 and plug the output into the P1 running a different tube sim on the TN embedded.
The purchase for the Alta preamp is a no brainer buy on it's own for me, but enabling the power amp section of the TN embedded (to disable or swap tube sims) would just make it the ultimate pre amp brain for any system!
Thanks for hearing out the request, I can't wait for my number on the waitlist either way. The preamp is fantastic and the integration seems top tier.
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I haven’t had a third cup of coffee yet, but what do you mean by “disable the power section”. There is a direct out that bypasses the digital stuff entirely and the Alta just functions like a normal analog preamp.
There are outs for just the preamp, and outs for the TN backend. There are two loops, one mono for when you want to incorporate a loop into an analog power amp setup, and one stereo loop for when you want to hit the digital backend. I’d assume you could send any preamp to that return to pick up the two notes backend.
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Yes, very easy to take the preamp output of the P1 and go to other power amps. I'm talking about the other way around, to take advantage of the TN system built in to the P1 from other preamps / amp heads!
The problem is just that if we come from a load output from a full amp head, that already has "power amp" stage built in of course, so it then goes through the Alta 100 power amp sim on the TN section.
We can take advantage of the TN section using other preamps by using the mono fx return on the Alta P1 (something Jason calls out in the manual as well!)
I just mean if we could disable the power amp section in the TN remote app, it woudl allow us to use full amp heads in this system as well (and not just other preamps)
Right now, the EL84 power amp model is always on on the TN side of things.
The problem is just that if we come from a load output from a full amp head, that already has "power amp" stage built in of course, so it then goes through the Alta 100 power amp sim on the TN section.
We can take advantage of the TN section using other preamps by using the mono fx return on the Alta P1 (something Jason calls out in the manual as well!)
I just mean if we could disable the power amp section in the TN remote app, it woudl allow us to use full amp heads in this system as well (and not just other preamps)
Right now, the EL84 power amp model is always on on the TN side of things.
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Ah I got you. Double baking PA sim. Not sure what is or isn’t possible on the TN side of things. I’ve been bypassing it entirely thus far and haven’t kicked the tires in the software yet.
PurpleRack
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I agree this is a great idea, but doubt Two Notes will ever allow bypassing the power amp sim in the Alta backend because that would cannibalize sales of their own physical units.
Elric
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Seems like kind of a corner case. You could just get one of their Captors or other products if you only want the back end, they're reasonably priced and then you are not running one unit into another one solely to piggyback onto some built-in feature of that unit that is missing from the upstream device.
IOW, most people who drop $2k on an Alta P1 are likely planning to use the preamp rather than use it as a stand-in for a $300 Opus.
In fact, I'd probably just run the Alta that way (as a preamp-only and then power amp or cab sims are via some other device if needed).
I mean its cool if they add it but if I were the developer, I probably would not expend too much energy on it unless it is *real* easy to implement without a hardware mod, etc.
