Line 6 Helix Stadium

[Digital Igloo]

Is there any talk about having something like Helix Control for HX Stadium? Or will maybe Helix Control be upgraded to even be compatible with it?

It's up to our users. Nexus is pretty open-ended, so sure, I could see a remote control for Stadium in the cards. It'd have to make sense financially, of course.

Unfortunately, Helix Control won't work because it doesn't have Nexus; the circuitry, data, and power handling is all totally different.

Obviously I can use any MIDI controller I want, but first party tools are always going to be the most compatible and easy to configure.

Any time I see someone trying to shoehorn a 3rd-party MIDI controller into acting as their main Helix Rack controller, it makes me a sad panda. There's sooooo much functionality, speed, and feedback you miss out on.

...we are probably talking about a 4U box where the touchscreen is at an awkward angle.

We probably wouldn't put the touchscreen at an angle, but yeah, it'd most likely need to be 4RU. There's a tiny chance we might be able to squeeze it into 3RU, but the bottom edge of the encoders would need to almost align with the chassis bottom. Years ago I showed a 3RU mockup to our head of ME and he said "Uh... that's probably not going to fit but we can take a look."

Sure, we could design some crazy car stereo-like ID where the entire cluster slides out and pivots up but that's risky on a tour reliability front (not to mention the public perception of reliability problem) and it'd be a lot of work for something that will ultimately sell a small fraction of Stadium XL and Stadium numbers. (On a similar front, we could've gotten all clever with Expand D10's ME, but its run rate warrants a dead simple folded steel box.)

Stadium Rack's best chance (and I'm not implying the chance is all that good) is to be able to reuse as much ME and EE as possible.

 

[laxu]

We probably wouldn't put the touchscreen at an angle, but yeah, it'd most likely need to be 4RU. There's a tiny chance we might be able to squeeze it into 3RU, but the bottom edge of the encoders would need to almost align with the chassis bottom. Years ago I showed a 3RU mockup to our head of ME and he said "Uh... that's probably not going to fit but we can take a look."

Sure, we could design some crazy car stereo-like ID where the entire cluster slides out and pivots up but that's risky on a tour reliability front (not to mention the public perception of reliability problem) and it'd be a lot of work for something that will ultimately sell a small fraction of Stadium XL and Stadium numbers. (On a similar front, we could've gotten all clever with Expand D10's ME, but its run rate warrants a dead simple folded steel box.)

Stadium Rack's best chance (and I'm not implying the chance is all that good) is to be able to reuse as much ME and EE as possible.

Yeah I expected it would have challenges like this. If HX Stadium Rack ever becomes a thing, I'd probably prefer it to lean on mobile/computer editors and be more like a rudimentary "see your preset/snapshot name and your levels" thing with knobs for setting output levels and not much more. Could probably cram it in 2U like that.

If you look at e.g John Petrucci's rig, he's got two Axe-Fx IIIs at the bottom of a rack where they're going to be a pain in the ass to adjust without Axe-Edit. They're either heavily pre-programmed or used via Axe-Edit which wasn't really shown in the vidoes.

 

[JiveTurkey]

This

Jacks on the back (with the Stadium Control that happens to use the same housing as the Helix Control)

 

[Chocol8]

Stadium Rack's best chance (and I'm not implying the chance is all that good) is to be able to reuse as much ME and EE as possible.

I would think Stadium Rack’s best chance would be if you could fit it into a 1u or no more than 2u form factor with a completely remote UI. Trying to force a touch screen and encoders onto a rack unit is going to result in way too many compromises that will doom it to failure out of the gate.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

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Jacks on the back (with the Stadium Control that happens to use the same housing as the Helix Control)

Helix Stadium Infield ™

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

Nah, no rack units for me. They're a lot more bulky and with a touchscreen, we are probably talking about a 4U box where the touchscreen is at an awkward angle.

I don’t understand how the angle would be awkward. Everyone keeps saying this, but we use screens on rack units all the time.

 

[timbuck3]

SUNDAY VLOGS ARE BACK​ ​ In this Sunday Vlog, we hacked the Helix to sound like Stadium. Line 6 Helix Stadium is coming soon, but we’ll have to wait a bit longer for Proxy (the capture engine that Line 6 is developing). In the meantime, we took the Helix and used dual TONEX pedals in the effects loop to emulate what Stadium might sound like with Proxy captures. Click here to watch the video and see how it sounds (it sounds amazing, btw). Here are the TONEX captures we used: ‘98 Matchless Chief 100 (Get it here) Marshall 1959 Mod 100w Plexi (this capture pack is coming very soon) If you want to do this kind of setup with your Helix, we’ll have a video and free preset template pack coming soon to show you how.

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COME HANG WITH US IN CHICAGO​

We are headed out to the Worship Innovators conference in Chicago, which happens in just a few days! If you’d like, there’s still time to register here. There is a worship night that is free and open to the public. If you live in the Chicago area, we’d love to worship with you and hang out together. Here are the details: Worship Innovators Worship Night Monday, Oct. 13, 7:00pm (doors open at 6:45) Christ Church of Oak Brook 501 Oak Brook Rd, Oak Brook, IL 60523

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[Mongillo19]

What the hell is even that

 

[ian_dissonance]

What the hell is even that

Useless internet trash.
“We hacked the Helix to Sound like Stadium”
Wtf?
That’s so dumb.

 

[timbuck3]

Useless internet trash.
“We hacked the Helix to Sound like Stadium”
Wtf?
That’s so dumb.

I agree … pathetic

 

[banned]

When is the Stadium coming out?

 

[paisleywookiee]

I agree … pathetic

Uh....you posted it.

EDIT

yes, you can. You can edit out the stupidity.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

I agree … pathetic

did you ever figure out how to edit a post?
now could be a perfect time to try

 

[sashimi]

SUNDAY VLOGS ARE BACK​ ​ ​ In this Sunday Vlog, we hacked the Helix to sound like Stadium. Line 6 Helix Stadium is coming soon, but we’ll have to wait a bit longer for Proxy (the capture engine that Line 6 is developing). In the meantime, we took the Helix and used dual TONEX pedals in the effects loop to emulate what Stadium might sound like with Proxy captures. Click here to watch the video and see how it sounds (it sounds amazing, btw). Here are the TONEX captures we used: ‘98 Matchless Chief 100 (Get it here) Marshall 1959 Mod 100w Plexi (this capture pack is coming very soon) If you want to do this kind of setup with your Helix, we’ll have a video and free preset template pack coming soon to show you how.

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COME HANG WITH US IN CHICAGO​

We are headed out to the Worship Innovators conference in Chicago, which happens in just a few days! If you’d like, there’s still time to register here. There is a worship night that is free and open to the public. If you live in the Chicago area, we’d love to worship with you and hang out together. Here are the details: Worship Innovators Worship Night Monday, Oct. 13, 7:00pm (doors open at 6:45) Christ Church of Oak Brook 501 Oak Brook Rd, Oak Brook, IL 60523

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[Dom Mcsweeney]

SUNDAY HOTUBS ARE BACK!!!​ ​ we hacked the HOTUB!!! COME HANG WITH TIM IN A HOTUB!!!​

 

[timbuck3]

did you ever figure out how to edit a post?
now could be a perfect time to try

Can’t edit after 1 minute

 

[paisleywookiee]

Can’t edit after 1 minute

Uh....you posted it.

EDIT

yes, you can. You can edit out the stupidity.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Wow, made the mistake of looking at TOP thread on teh Stadium. What a mistake. That FPFL dude is a fucking prick. “This isn’t opinion it’s fact!” Whatever, dildo.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

Can edit after 1 minute, just don't wanna

ftfy

 

[HotRats]

Yeah I expected it would have challenges like this. If HX Stadium Rack ever becomes a thing, I'd probably prefer it to lean on mobile/computer editors and be more like a rudimentary "see your preset/snapshot name and your levels" thing with knobs for setting output levels and not much more. Could probably cram it in 2U like that.

If you look at e.g John Petrucci's rig, he's got two Axe-Fx IIIs at the bottom of a rack where they're going to be a pain in the ass to adjust without Axe-Edit. They're either heavily pre-programmed or used via Axe-Edit which wasn't really shown in the vidoes.

Maybe it's easier to put an Helix Stadium in a rack drawer and have @Digital Igloo make a 1U rack display that shows preset/snapshot/whatever on front instead of a full rack unit?