Line 6 Helix Stadium

I would still like to see some intense editing session. Tones are one thing, but as a simpleton I'm fine with them anyway - editing and general usability however, that's quite something else. Ideally, I'd like to just sit down with a Stadium and fool around, possibly wouldn't even need to have a guitar connected.
 
I would still like to see some intense editing session. Tones are one thing, but as a simpleton I'm fine with them anyway - editing and general usability however, that's quite something else. Ideally, I'd like to just sit down with a Stadium and fool around, possibly wouldn't even need to have a guitar connected.

I think that's an important thing that's been missing from the existing clips as well.

I would love to see them sit down with one low-gain and one high-gain amp and really give them exhaustive playthroughs where we hear the full range of treble, bass, presence and so on across all channels. Switch up the cabs too. Add effects and switch between their focus zones.

As it stands, we're essentially listening to snapshots of tones.
 
Just use a real cab - 95% of your complaints would go away. With a modeler you have perfect volume control as well as your selection of amps as well as power amp saturation. You can get 1-2 lightweight cabs for variety and that's all you need. DV Mark even has 4x12s that weigh almost nothing - if you don't like the speakers, swap out for some Celestion Neos.

Otherwise, keep complaining.

You not only apparently missed the no cab part like already mentioned, you missed the post I said I've played real amps into a reactive load and IRs for quite a while before going full digital. The problem was never the lack of a guitar cabinet.

Beyond that, I was commenting on something else really. I just stated basically that I'd rather have the perspective of an engineer on a recorded guitar sound rather than a guitar player's, that's all. Something got lost in translation apparently.
 
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You not only apparently missed the no cab part like already mentioned, you missed the post I said I've played real amps into a reactive load and IRs for quite a while before going full digital. The problem was never the lack of a guitar cabinet.

Beyond that, I was commenting on something else really. I just stated basically that I'd rather have the perspective of an engineer on a recorded guitar sound rather than a guitar player's, that's all. Something got lost in translation apparently.
I definitely get a lot of crossover between mixing education videos and dialing in guitar tones. A lot of what I learn there is the same regardless of the hardware it’s translating back to, though.
 
You not only apparently missed the no cab part like already mentioned, you missed the post I said I've played real amps into a reactive load and IRs for quite a while before going full digital. The problem was never the lack of a guitar cabinet.

Beyond that, I was commenting on something else really. I just stated basically that I'd rather have the perspective of an engineer on a recorded guitar sound rather than a guitar player's, that's all. Something got lost in translation apparently.

Your recorded tones are fine ... even great. If you're able to get those sounds live, I can't imagine wanting anything more. You may be overthinking some of this.
 
I don't know, @Tito83... I sold both my UAFX Dream and Ruby pedals. I preferred my Tone King preamp pedal and various Tonex captures over the Dream, and also preferred various Tonex captures over the Ruby. So far, I've kept my UAFX Enigmatic, though.

I recently picked up an HX Stomp, and to be honest, I'm a bit underwhelmed so far. Probably not a popular opinion on this board ("Do not sell your Stomp," etc.). And I do think it's probably user error—i.e., I haven’t spent enough time dialing things in yet.
 
I don't know, @Tito83... I sold both my UAFX Dream and Ruby pedals. I preferred my Tone King preamp pedal and various Tonex captures over the Dream, and also preferred various Tonex captures over the Ruby. So far, I've kept my UAFX Enigmatic, though.

I recently picked up an HX Stomp, and to be honest, I'm a bit underwhelmed so far. Probably not a popular opinion on this board ("Do not sell your Stomp," etc.). And I do think it's probably user error—i.e., I haven’t spent enough time dialing things in yet.
Have you played with the Grammatico GSG yet? I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts on how it compares to the Enigmatic.
 
I would love to see them sit down with one low-gain and one high-gain amp and really give them exhaustive playthroughs where we hear the full range of treble, bass, presence and so on across all channels. Switch up the cabs too. Add effects and switch between their focus zones.

This as well.
But in the first place, I'd like to see them utilize the touchscreen, the XY pad, the ways to navigate, the mixer, etc. All the things you're utilizing all the time.
 
Have you played with the Grammatico GSG yet? I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts on how it compares to the Enigmatic.

Not yet, really, but I’ll definitely give it a go. I’ll probably start with the newest amps that were added, though—getting to know the pedal and amp sims through the latest iteration before Stadium.
 
Not yet, really, but I’ll definitely give it a go. I’ll probably start with the newest amps that were added, though—getting to know the pedal and amp sims through the latest iteration before Stadium.

The ones of the Catalyst amp series that were added in the last updates are a pretty good start IMO as they are easy to deal with.
My other two favourites are the Super Reverb and the mentioned Grammatico GSG, even if the latter is a bit tricky to dial in.
Personally, I think that some of the cabs chosen as defaults don't exactly do the amps justice too well. As an allround testing cab (I usually don't use combined amp&cab blocks but separate them) I really like the 2x12 Mandarin30 cab (default settings are fine, sometimes I switch to a 57 mic), which is working fine for both cleans and dirts.
Out of the dirt pedals, I really like the Top Secret OD (DOD 250 clone), but I typically pair it with an EQ following, as the TSOD at lower gain settings doesn't have enough output volume to boost an amp. The drive itself sits nicely between overdrive and fuzz, when you push its frontend with a Kinky Boost, it's even more fuzzy and cleans up great (in case these kinda sounds are your thing). Kinky Boost, Top Secret OD and Voltage goes like this:
 
I definitely get a lot of crossover between mixing education videos and dialing in guitar tones. A lot of what I learn there is the same regardless of the hardware it’s translating back to, though.

A modeler gives you basically the experience of a recording studio just for guitar. It's great to have Slash talking about it, but I think - because of the very nature of the product - it would be great to also hear from Eric Valentine, the guy who actually captured his tone and made it work in the mix. I'd even say the opinions of the later cares more weight in this matter. That's all I'm saying.

Your recorded tones are fine ... even great. If you're able to get those sounds live, I can't imagine wanting anything more. You may be overthinking some of this.

Just to be clear, this really doesn't have to do with the original post that ended up in this string of messages.

Thanks. But I think I sometime just stumble into something OK after many many hours of tweaking. A lot of the time it feels like I'm blindly trying to catch something. But live, specially working with different bands with different monitoring systems it can be a problem. Even set flat, two completely different systems can sound different enough to really mess with my sound even through I have the same IEM's. Standium having full mix control for different outputs sounds great actually for this reason.

I don't know, @Tito83... I sold both my UAFX Dream and Ruby pedals. I preferred my Tone King preamp pedal and various Tonex captures over the Dream, and also preferred various Tonex captures over the Ruby. So far, I've kept my UAFX Enigmatic, though.

I recently picked up an HX Stomp, and to be honest, I'm a bit underwhelmed so far. Probably not a popular opinion on this board ("Do not sell your Stomp," etc.). And I do think it's probably user error—i.e., I haven’t spent enough time dialing things in yet.

Their amp sims are the best IMO. The cab portion is the weak link in the sense they are fixed. If you don't happen to like any of them, there's really not much you can do, you can't move or change mics around. I understand the spirit behind the idea, I don't know if I'm fully onboard. There could be a simple EQ like on the OX, I think that would help a lot. I understand how that can be a deal breaker for some. And don't get me started on the "no midi" part :bonk

Never tried the Tone King, but I had the Tonex and it can be easier for most. The fact there are so many captures available makes it more likely to find something that sounds in the ballpark of your preference. The thing for me is that every capture has this compression that I don't really like. A softness that I can even see some people liking. It was the same with the QC I borrowed for a while. I personally don't care for it.

I had a Helix months after release up until a couple of months ago. I spent A LOT of time dialing it in.The amps in the Helix line are underwhelming in general IMO. Some are workable, the later Bassman was the one I used last before selling my Stomp. Sort of ok, but every amp on Helix just feel off IMO. Some I really don't like (read below). Funny enough I'm probably buying another HX Stomp, part of the plan I came up with to use my Dream live.

Have you played with the Grammatico GSG yet? I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts on how it compares to the Enigmatic.

I really don't like it. Can't use it, the tone sounds wrong and it feels just wrong under the fingers. I found some tones of the actual amp I wasn't really crazy about. Dumbles varied, maybe this wasn't really in the ballpark of what I like, but as a fan of the Dumble tone from Lowell George, Eric Johnson, Carlton and specially Robben Ford, I just really really don't like that model.
 
A modeler gives you basically the experience of a recording studio just for guitar. It's great to have Slash talking about it, but I think - because of the very nature of the product - it would be great to also hear from Eric Valentine, the guy who actually captured his tone and made it work in the mix. I'd even say the opinions of the later cares more weight in this matter. That's all I'm saying.
For sure, I’m just saying seeing him dial it on the Stadium or having him make a preset is most likely going to use his “standard” guitar tone approach that you could extrapolate to any piece of modeling gear from interviews or videos of him talking about his general approach to guitars.
 
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