Line 6 Helix Stadium

[Deadpan]

I'm guessing that's a no given how heavily cloud-integrated they say the Proxy process is.

That being said, YOU are the number one third-party guy I'm looking forward to getting involved in Proxy captures.

You'll have a repeat customer on day one.

Yeah, I can see making captures would be likely not possible but could they add a player block?

Seems the resources to run a capture player would be less than an amp model.

 

[molul]

Yeah, I can see making captures would be likely not possible but could they add a player block?

Seems the resources to run a capture player would be less than an amp model.

I guess the capture block wouldn't be very difficult to add (unless it's very DSP-intensive), and while I wouldn't expect them to add it very soon, maybe in a few years when OG Helix is facing its final days. It would be a good "last sales boost" and at that point it wouldn't prevent people from jumping to Stadium.

 

[HomespunEffects]

Hey, will us early adopter, preorderers get any exclusive special extras? Put some swag in the box or a coupon for the backpack or maybe access to exclusive profiles or whatevs.

 

[molul]

✅ Comprar Line6 Helix

Compra Line6 Helix y recibelo en ✅ 24/48h. Envío gratuito en pedidos a partir de 99€

www.txirula.com

I love this. The url says "don't publish", price is the cheapest I've seen, and they say the non-XL will be available on September 25th

 

[Sascha Franck]

Please let the old Helix models play the captures!

As much as I understand the request, If I were running this business, I'd possibly not deliver that, even if it was somehow possible.
At one point in time, Line 6 wants people to buy new hardware - and possibly even needs to create some more incentives than before, because the modeling market is pretty saturated with welldoing devices.

 

[EOengineer]

Hey, will us early adopter, preorderers get any exclusive special extras? Put some swag in the box or a coupon for the backpack or maybe access to exclusive profiles or whatevs.

Yeah the $250 backpack smarts, NGL. I guess it feels weird to bitch about it right after dropping $2k for a device, but $250? Ouch.

 

[HomespunEffects]

Yeah the $250 backpack smarts, NGL. I guess it feels weird to bitch about it right after dropping $2k for a device, but $250? Ouch.

Yeah man, deliver my preordered Helix Stadium XL IN a backpack!

 

[HomespunEffects]

The XL’s treadle has a toe forward switch, correct? Does this mean that it can be a volume pedal and then when you click the toe switch and it can be a Wah (or control anything else)?

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

I guess the capture block wouldn't be very difficult to add

But if the underlying models that the capture tweaks are based on the new architecture in Stadium then you wouldn’t be able to play the captures on an OG HX device.

 

[Mongillo19]

✅ Comprar Line6 Helix

Compra Line6 Helix y recibelo en ✅ 24/48h. Envío gratuito en pedidos a partir de 99€

www.txirula.com

I love this. The url says "don't publish", price is the cheapest I've seen, and they say the non-XL will be available on September 25th

When I was chatting with musicians friend here in the US they said end of August but Im not trusting them to know for sure

 

[Mooselake]

When I was chatting with musicians friend here in the US they said end of August but Im not trusting them to know for sure

I hope there's some clarity on that before long. I assumed "fall" meant sometime in the October-Dec time frame, but if it's really going to be Aug-Sept I'll need to change the shipping address on my preorder.

 

[EOengineer]

Musiciansfriend told me Oct 22nd for the XL, FWIW.

 

[LCW]

When I was chatting with musicians friend here in the US they said end of August but Im not trusting them to know for sure

Underpromise... Overdeliver? @Digital Igloo

 

[Mongillo19]

Musiciansfriend told me Oct 22nd for the XL, FWIW.

That sounds much more reasonable lol

 

[Sascha Franck]

The XL’s treadle has a toe forward switch, correct? Does this mean that it can be a volume pedal and then when you click the toe switch and it can be a Wah (or control anything else)?

Of course.
Unless they've taken that function away, which would be pretty stupid IMO.

 

[GTR37]

Just reading some stadium threads at TOP what a gong show , I think a few are ALTs as they are saying the exact same phrases
They still have not been able to grasp the amp in the room with you next to it ,vs the amp in the control room w a mic on it concept

 

[HomespunEffects]

Of course.
Unless they've taken that function away, which would be pretty stupid IMO.

My experience is with HX Stomp only.

 

[Digital Igloo]

@Digital Igloo said in the presentation that the converters are better than interfaces costing thousands. I was just wondering about that and I’m thinking the reps are making assumptions. See, i was going to order a RME Babyface but that $1000 can go on the Helix Stadium XL.

I never said that. I said the dynamic range on the inputs is better than that of many multi-thousand-dollar audio interfaces. Which it is, measurably. So was the Guitar Input(s) on Helix and HX products, due to a patent we still own.

And all you other people with your "pshaw, marketing guys" can suck it. I'm a designer who got sucked into doing a keynote because no one else would do it.

@Digital Igloo Will the clips that are on a preset be transferable to another preset (not just if I resave/rename?

Eventually, you'll be able to just lock the preset and have it play through whatever preset you want. Then saving the preset will assign the clip to it. Or you'll be able to browse through all presets. That sort of defeats the purpose—hearing a preset designed specifically for that clip/performance—but we'll let you do it.

But at 1.0, the clip is locked to the Factory preset. And you won't be able to record your own clips until a bit later.

The XL’s treadle has a toe forward switch, correct? Does this mean that it can be a volume pedal and then when you click the toe switch and it can be a Wah (or control anything else)?

Yes. If you add Wah (or Pitch Wham or Poly Wham) and Volume blocks, their Position parameters are automatically assigned to EXP 1 and EXP 2, respectively, and pressing the toe switch automatically toggles the bypass state of both of them.

 

[timbuck3]

This is interesting
Perhaps. The AI oracle seems to disagree though:

"The powerful DSP engine in the Helix LT processors is called the HX Modeling engine. This engine is responsible for the authentic sound and feel of the modelled amps, cabs, and effects in the Helix LT. The Helix LT uses a dual DSP HX modeling enginefor processing power. "

"The powerful DSP engine powering the Agoura modeling in Helix Stadium processors is referred to as HX Modeling. This technology is specifically mentioned as being at the core of the Helix Stadium processors, enabling the complex algorithms of the Agoura methodology."

"While it does leverage powerful DSP and features the new Agoura™ modeling methodology, it still uses the dual DSP-powered HX modeling enginefound in previous Helix products like the Helix Floor and Helix LT.
The significant advancements in the Helix Stadium line, which includes the Helix Stadium Floor and XL Floor, are related to:

• New Agoura™ modeling methodology: This is a key area of improvement, delivering enhanced sound and responsiveness.
• Performance workstation capabilities: The Helix Stadium models can function as performance workstations, offering advanced features for writing, learning, jamming, and controlling an entire stage rig.
• New features: These models introduce features like Hype control, Proxy amp/cab/effect cloning, and Showcase automation and playback engine.
• Enhanced user interface: The touch screen and improved layout contribute to a more intuitive experience.

In summary, the Helix Stadium line builds upon the established Helix processing power by introducing new modeling techniques and features, rather than completely overhauling the core DSP."

 

[Digital Igloo]

This is interesting
Perhaps. The AI oracle seems to disagree though:

"The powerful DSP engine in the Helix LT processors is called the HX Modeling engine. This engine is responsible for the authentic sound and feel of the modelled amps, cabs, and effects in the Helix LT. The Helix LT uses a dual DSP HX modeling enginefor processing power. "

"The powerful DSP engine powering the Agoura modeling in Helix Stadium processors is referred to as HX Modeling. This technology is specifically mentioned as being at the core of the Helix Stadium processors, enabling the complex algorithms of the Agoura methodology."

"While it does leverage powerful DSP and features the new Agoura™ modeling methodology, it still uses the dual DSP-powered HX modeling enginefound in previous Helix products like the Helix Floor and Helix LT.
The significant advancements in the Helix Stadium line, which includes the Helix Stadium Floor and XL Floor, are related to:

• New Agoura™ modeling methodology: This is a key area of improvement, delivering enhanced sound and responsiveness.
• Performance workstation capabilities: The Helix Stadium models can function as performance workstations, offering advanced features for writing, learning, jamming, and controlling an entire stage rig.
• New features: These models introduce features like Hype control, Proxy amp/cab/effect cloning, and Showcase automation and playback engine.
• Enhanced user interface: The touch screen and improved layout contribute to a more intuitive experience.

In summary, the Helix Stadium line builds upon the established Helix processing power by introducing new modeling techniques and features, rather than completely overhauling the core DSP."

Huh? It's not so interesting when you understand that ChatGPT and other AI services are very often dead wrong.