Line 6 Helix Stadium

[Mongillo19]

So it seems LINE6 has just recreated a modern version of the Digitech GNX4 w/NAM-like tech(which they didn't develop)
Very creative

Yeah man that's exactly what they did!

 

[Goontone]

Why do I have it in my head that its gonna have 4 STEREO loops and not mono. Is that right?

 

[mbenigni]

man, it's going to be a long 10 years. You better start making peace with this

Ugh @ TLAs. (Three letter acronyms.)

We'll type frickin' novellas about GUIs and bright caps and null tests and whatever else, but we can't type "Stadium" when we mean "Stadium".

 

[MirrorProfiles]

But for instance show my The Agoura XTC red sound like this and my ears will perk up

can’t you get close with the current XTC model?

EDIT: The Helix XTC Red Channel sounds a bit fucked/broken to me. It makes a ton of noise unless you crank the bias up, and it sounds blown out/incorrect at normal settings IMO.

Look at the output meters with absolutely no input at all. There's a load of noise being generated by the amp that is related to the bias setting

 

[mbenigni]

Thinking about it, I've always disliked the term "scribble strips" (they generally contain typed text, so I call them labels, like DYMO labels), and my eyes aren't great at reading from that distance, so I'm pretty sure I'm not going to miss them.

I can totally see why people would want them. They don't matter much for how I play. The TMP has to have them in order to label the encoder switches. But I could probably use colors on my FM9 and obviate the need for them there, and I'm sure that's how it'll work for me on the Stadium.

IMHO, if the content/ layout on the main screen is properly leveraged, scribble strips are typically redundant. I don't need 9x televisions on a device that's smaller than a breadbox (mixing metaphors and dating myself twice in the process LOL.) It just seems a little over the top.

I do wish the smaller Stadium had the full array of I/O, but it is what it is, I guess. Only so much volume (as in cubic cm) and budget to go around.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

This is pure speculation, but when Line6 says "signal chain cloning" with Proxy, are we talking about feeding the engine a signal chain in another unit or a recording and having it duplicate that in Helix? Because holy crap. I could see using AI to do something like that.

 

[EOengineer]

The rest of the market realizing nobody is buying another modeler until this fall.

 

[mbenigni]

Yep, I want information, not animations.View attachment 46523

Line 6 web designers right now:

 

[FuzzyAce]

The rest of the market realizing nobody is buying another modeler until this fall.

Unless Cliff surprises us with a VA4?

 

[mbenigni]

Unless Cliff surprises us with a VA4?

"Now With 8% More CPU, 4 More Menus, and an Extra Graph™!"

(Not likely to be directly relevant when it eventually arrives, is all I'm saying.)

 

[EOengineer]

can’t you get close with the current XTC model?

EDIT: The Helix XTC Red Channel sounds a bit fucked/broken to me. It makes a ton of noise unless you crank the bias up, and it sounds blown out/incorrect at normal settings IMO.

Look at the output meters with absolutely no input at all. There's a load of noise being generated by the amp that is related to the bias setting

That's just magic tone static don't worry about it.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

I don't think Fractal will be hurting. The XL is still about $400 more than an FM9 plus expression. And some will prefer the Fractal amp and effects modeling. I don't think Fractal will feel too much pressure to make a move any time soon. And if they did, I'm not sure they want to go in the same direction as Line6.

Back when Helix was released, despite all the talk of it being a "Fractal killer", Line6 was always quick to say that was never their goal. But after a few years of delivery and improvements folks started weighing which platform to buy if they could only have one. With this new release they have thrown down the gauntlet, not just to Fractal, but to seemingly all the competition. I am super excited for what this is going to bring from the rest of the market. They're not going to "kill" any of the others. If anything, this is where others will step up.

 

[Sleezy E]

"Now With 8% More CPU, 4 More Menus, and an Extra Graph™!"

(Not likely to be directly relevant when it eventually arrives, is all I'm saying.)

Whoa there turbo!!

... you forgot "turbo"

 

[mbenigni]

Whoa there turbo!!

... you forgot "turbo"

 

[Mongillo19]

I don't think Fractal will feel too much pressure to make a move any time soon.

I think they are going to keep exploring the VP (maybe amp only next?) line

 

[Mongillo19]

View attachment 46526

I feel like there has been a lack of Mortimer given the recent news

 

[GTR37]

Preach on. They also need to make better presets. Make them useful. I hate when every preset is a caricature. “Here’s a high gain amp SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS *no mids or bass *”
And “Here’s a delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay”

One of my Fav comparisons they did IMO was the Igor
Badonk vs Gojira plug in
He did it in a mix and then isolated tracks switching back and forth like every 2 seconds
It was a fair test well done and proved the point
And of course with Igor’s personality and attitude much more fun that watching Leo running latency and Null tests IMO

 

[dbagchee]

Preach on. They also need to make better presets. Make them useful. I hate when every preset is a caricature. “Here’s a high gain amp SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS *no mids or bass *”
And “Here’s a delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay… delay…

The presets in recent firmware updates are actually really great starting points. They have a preset for most of the amp models that are mainly just the amp with a few pedals like delay, od, compression disabled but assigned to switches so you can toggle them on like a typical pedal board. I hope they use the same approach for the first bank of presets on the Stadium.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Unless Cliff surprises us with a VA4?

 

[FuzzyAce]

Whoa there turbo!!

... you forgot "turbo"

friggin' MegaTurbo