Line 6 Helix Stadium

[Sascha Franck]

Btw, where's the poweramp category?

 

[MadMaxG79]

I feel bad about talking about this even as @Digital Igloo says Proxy leaves a bad taste in his mouth, but I JUST saw the @2112 video on the new Hotone Verbera convolution reverb pedal.



In addition to having a ton of modes and cool presets on its own, um....this MFer clones reverbs?!?!

If that's the case and that Pandora's box has already been opened, Proxy almost certainly is going to be able to clone time-based effects at some point.

Neat.

You've been able to capture reverb IRs in DAWs for a long time. Logic added Space Designer and a capture utility in 2013.

On the hardware front, the Sony DRE-777 ($12,000 new!) is from way back in 1999; we've clearly come a long way since then.

And a few neighborhoods over from us is Logidy, who, in 2014, released the EPSi, a convolution reverb pedal (playback only). A bunch of people asked them to make a cab IR loader with lower latency, so EPSi has two different versions of firmware, depending on whether you want reverbs or cabs.

My first time seeing it in a pedal, especially one from a guitar multi-effects company. I genuinely thought we were a little ways off from that, but I know you can't talk about future-leaning stuff.

This is definitely the wrong thread for this and I will most likely get lynched for it, but Headrush just released their newest firmware which includes a convolution reverb effects block. They've included 50 IRs to play around with but you can also import your own. Pretty neat.

 

[Sascha Franck]

This is definitely the wrong thread for this and I will most likely get lynched for it, but Headrush just released their newest firmware which includes a convolution reverb effects block. They've included 50 IRs to play around with but you can also import your own. Pretty neat.

Interesting.

I think that after cab IRs, NAM and long IR compatibility is what you might have to deliver at one point in time. Not too sure about NAM as a native format, maybe a conversion utility would do, but people just want this stuff, just as they wanted cab IRs.

 

[James Freeman]

Btw, where's the poweramp category?

Are you even the target audience bro? Do you even play in a church/worship band bro?

 

[molul]

Are you even the target audience bro? Do you even play in a church/worship band bro?

 

[HomespunEffects]

Imagine a time when P&W guys all carry their helixes in their backpacks but the other kids don’t know what’s in them but they want to fit in so the Helix Backpack becomes a trendy fashion accessory.

Hey, nice helix backpack. Do you play in the band?

No, this is my lunch and homework.

 

[GTR37]

Btw, where's the poweramp category?

Likely removed
I suspect not at launch but people have been begging line6 for years for mix and match preamp / power amp to make custom models
Change power tube types
NFB etc

 

[EOengineer]

He won’t answer that
But if that was a thing let’s say you could take a 5153 preamp into the 2203 power amp with 34s
How would the hype work ?
Would it follow the preamp or power amp topology ??

Or would it be disabled because you have created a custom hybrid

Just guessing, but given that we don’t have THAT many novel amp topologies out there, I’m wondering if hype might be doing similar things on similar groups of amps (Marshalls, Mesas, Fenders) or perhaps certain types of sounds (squeaky clean, EOB, crunch, high gain), so to some extent it repeats itself? But to your point, mismatches could get interesting.

Handling the edge case when mixing and matching is probably going to look like one of these options:
- both preamp block and poweramp block have independent hype controls
- select whether you use the preamp or power amp hype
- only enable hype on full amp models

 

[Sascha Franck]

Are you even the target audience bro? Do you even play in a church/worship band bro?

You never know...

Whatever, I've got a Soldano SP-77 that sounds gorgeous through the poweramps of my Amplifirebox (too bad it urgently needs servicing, otherwise I'd post a clip).

 

[mbenigni]

I get that. I doubt fas will add a touchscreen but they may make a better user friendly gui

Paul: Have to admit it's getting better!
John: It couldn't get any worse.

(Adding the touchscreen is a million times easier than designing the friendly GUI, FWIW.)

 

[mbenigni]

Well, Cliff from Fractal said they were working hard on a new device that would make all modelers look like a Game Boy. I would expect that to include a totally new UI.

But IIRC he specifically cited its power making other devices look like a Game Boy. Which is: a) the last thing FAS actually needs, and b) exactly what I'd expect.

"One FM9 Twin Turbo Quattrovalvole with Nitrous Oxide™ coming up! Be sure to use the PC editor."

 

[HomespunEffects]

But IIRC he specifically cited it's power making other devices look like a Game Boy. Which is: a) the last thing FAS actually needs, and b) exactly what I'd expect.

"One FM9 Twin Turbo Quattrovalvole with Nitrous™ coming up! Be sure to use the PC editor."

Wait, so he's making every other device look like the hottest selling thing of its generation? Good news for Line 6.

 

[Mongillo19]

But IIRC he specifically cited it's power making other devices look like a Game Boy. Which is: a) the last thing FAS actually needs, and b) exactly what I'd expect.

"One FM9 Twin Turbo Quattrovalvole with Nitrous™ coming up! Be sure to use the PC editor."

Yes, it seemed to be in direct relation to him stating it would have been considered a super computer a few years ago.

 

[mbenigni]

Wait, so he's making every other device look like the hottest selling thing of its generation? Good news for Line 6.

That's kind of the punchline, yeah. "We'll show them! Our next product will make their stuff look... fun by comparison! MUAHAHAHAHAH!"

(I'd argue that - in this regard - FAS has had everyone on the run all along.)

Pre-emptive:

 

[laxu]

(Adding the touchscreen is a million times easier than designing the friendly GUI, FWIW.)

You can look at FracPad for what you get if you take Axe-Edit, and turn it into a touchscreen software. It kinda works, but doesn't really improve the experience a ton. Virtual knobs have to turn into large zoomed in versions to make it possible to drag your finger to turn them and see what is going on etc.

Block and routing management would still be a pain in the ass with the system Fractal has atm with the shunts and whatnot.

Don't take this as me shitting on FracPad either. I think the developer has done a helluva good job reverse engineering the Sysex communication and Fractal should work with them to make something for next gen.

Line6 had a helluva easier time because their Helix UI was already designed for a touchscreen. Sliders work with touch even on a fairly small screen like on my Hotone A2 Stomp.

 

[Los-D]

Paul: Have to admit it's getting better!
John: It couldn't get any worse.

(Adding the touchscreen is a million times easier than designing the friendly GUI, FWIW.)

Touchscreen-enabled Axe-Edit on device (adjusted for size, of course) would be awesome (and somewhat doable vs major UI revamp)

 

[Mongillo19]

Touchscreen-enabled Axe-Edit on device (adjusted for size, of course) would be awesome (and somewhat doable vs major UI revamp)

I feel like it would have to be a decently sized screen.

As great as axe edit can be, I feel like fractal could really benefit from totally revamping it.

I get why they might not want to but the opportunity is there

 

[mbenigni]

Touchscreen-enabled Axe-Edit on device (adjusted for size, of course) would be awesome (and somewhat doable vs major UI revamp)

I feel like it would have to be a decently sized screen.

As great as axe edit can be, I feel like fractal could really benefit from totally revamping it.

I get why they might not want to but the opportunity is there

Yeah, I don't mean to poop on Axe Edit (which I've barely used), but without a mouse you'd need a massive touchscreen. Which starts to present UX issues of its own, like, who's going to pay the roadcrew to get it off the truck?

 

[Aleksi]

Yes, it seemed to be in direct relation to him stating it would have been considered a super computer a few years ago.

I sure hope we get a new one of these for the Axe Fx IV. Probably have to scroll down for a while to see the whole thing, though!

 

[mbenigni]

I get why they might not want to but the opportunity is there

UI/UX has never been a strong suit for Fractal, and they remain in demand by virtue of other strengths (variety of amps, quality of amps and effects). Half their customers are borderline hostile to the idea of UI or QoL improvements. How that will look in a couple of years, with Stadium on the market and another generation of players adopting their first modelers... who knows? I personally think FAS is going to have to take a hard look at "ENTER EDIT EXIT HOME" and the like, but I'm also aware I'm a little more OCD than the average customer.