Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

Clearly you cloned the wrong dog. Bill&Ted would never do that—he's the bestest boy.
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All that fancy schooling for nothing.
 
Comps and EQs don't take much DSP - it's mainly the amp and cab blocks that need some thought around which path/dsp you put them on - moving your IR/Cab to the next path might work for example - but yeah this DSP limit looks closer to what OG Helix can handle for each DSP path.
as seen in both attempts in my screen shots, I did try to put the amp blocks both on path 1 and then I split them to be on both path 1 and path 2. when putting them both on path 1, I couldn't get the option to add. Probably an overall cpu limit as path 1 should be able to handle 2 amps and 2 cabs with a few eqs

When splitting them on different paths, when piping them to the effects blocks line on 2b, it becomes an issue as now you have both the amp2 and effects on path 2, which it simply can't handle.

In this method, there is another problem that you can't chain from 1a to 2b while simultaneously sending a split from 2a to 2b. This is a huge limitation.
My last screenshot in post #6150 should easily be possible.

I don't need dual amps but I need either:
1) the capability of loading multiple amps in an amp block with no gap (ie. FAS channels) - this would negate using snapshot disable/enable and having "snapshot block alter". this capability would also be helpful within cab and effects blocks where you can choose a different effect in other snapshots. ie. vintage delay snapshot 1, dual delay snapshot 2, quad delay snapshot 3

2) be able to place multiple blocks knowing that you will only use one or the other. The "alternate" block. ie. put two amp blocks and tell the system that they will never be used at the same time in hopes that it saves some cpu.
 
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I’m hoping we can get folders to organize clones like Stadium has for IRs.

And a good rotary speaker. I can’t get the current ones to sound good. May be user error.
 
I don't know. I think if I were coming out of the gate with Line 6, I would fail on the side of effectiveness and worry about efficiency once I got the effectiveness down cold. Seems normal to me.

It's been more of a general observation. My (by now 2 generations old) Macbook boots as fast as pretty much any modeler and simply mops the floor with all of them regarding performance. While running absolute killer filter (and other synth-ish) FX, the most beautiful delays, all kinda IR reverbs and - obviously - all available amp plugins, including HQ NAM files.
 
Gotta say that in general I'm pretty unimpressed by how little CPU juice there is to be had in most hardware modelers. I mean, I can run 3-4 maxed out instances of HX Native on a single thread of a Macbook Air M3. And over the years, companies never got tired of telling us how much of a benefit dedicated CPUs and OSes were. I'm still wondering why that would be. They're not cheaper, not more stable and not performing better.

Because it was true in the Intel era and Apple doesn't sell their SoCs to other companies. Even if you went with an Intel strategy, you couldn't count on getting parts for 10+ years.

Also Apple has invested lots of billions of dollars acquiring semi-conductor company (ies) to develop their own SoC, vertically integrated with their software stack, shipping at volumes that guarantee you top spot to get the latest manufacturing nodes available. This didn't happen overnight.
 
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I don’t obsessively stalk this kind of video on YouTube but saw it on the FB group. Interesting comparison between Proxy and other capture tech. In a nutshell, proxy does really well and, when you consider that it’s a (very new) cherry on top of an already great cake that continues to improve….. well, that’s impressive.

 
I wish someone with all of the proper tools at their disposal posted analysis videos.
However, if they did, they would probably have their own product line :)
 
Outside of playing Black Hole Sun a couple times a year, it’s not a sound I know well. I’ve seen others (@JiveTurkey) express your sentiment though.

Out of curiosity, what’s wrong with the L6 rotary/leslie models?
They are super muddy sounding. I have a workaround that involves putting the Vibe rotary in a parallel path and inverting the phase in the merge mixer ONLY when the Leslie is active (link below). Its definitely an improvement to my ears (more clarity /closer to the unaffected tone) and I actually think the slow leslie sound is pretty damn good setup this way. There is a stock preset on the Stadium using the Leslie 145 that sounds "ok" and even better with the parallel setup IMO. The leslie 45 sounded pretty bad in the OG Helix. Which is why everyone uses the Vibe Rotary because it was the least offensive.

 
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I wish someone with all of the proper tools at their disposal posted analysis videos.
However, if they did, they would probably have their own product line :)

If they did, only a very small number of viewers would understand what they were talking about. That would not lead to clicks, like and subscribe, and this video is brought to you by shadow legends. It is much more profitable to tell us "YOUR USING YOUR MODELER WRONG!" and spoon feed us an LUFS number.
 
If they did, only a very small number of viewers would understand what they were talking about. That would not lead to clicks, like and subscribe, and this video is brought to you by shadow legends. It is much more profitable to tell us "YOUR USING YOUR MODELER WRONG!" and spoon feed us an LUFS number.
he needs all the clicks he can get. up another 500 today.

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my point is simply that I have no cpu restrictions to do that on other vendor platforms. I shouldn't have to compromise/trim anything.
The compressors and other (eq) blocks are simply to try things in different locations to see what sounds and works best.
The 4 tap delay and tape delay are very good together. The dynamic hall is a staple and for huge reverbs, pushing them into one another is a great effect for huge washy stuff.
I don't really need two simultaneous amps at all, as long as there is a way to switch amps without gaps then one amp block would do.

Even in this scenario, I can't add a second Agoura amp:

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That’s pretty strange. I was able to run 3 Agouras and pretty much max out the whole signal chain, with 2 I easily can. The only thing that really chews significant CPU besides proxy or Agoura is poly capo, even then I could still run 3 Agoura and a few effects. (The pitch block in both left photos is poly capo)

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That’s pretty strange. I was able to run 3 Agouras and pretty much max out the whole signal chain, with 2 I easily can. The only thing that really chews significant CPU besides proxy or Agoura is poly capo, even then I could still run 3 Agoura and a few effects. (The pitch block in both left photos is poly capo)

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Are you running stereo effects or mono? That could make a difference.
 
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