Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

[Chocol8]

Not even tube amps. Getting tubes is one thing, but I’m seriously worried about how much longer enough competent amp techs will be around.

That's what drove me to learn to be my own tech more than 30 years ago. If anything, I think the situation has improved with all the information available online now, plus all the kit amps and people who have built them. If you can solder and read a circuit schematic, you can probably learn to fix many typical tube amp issues these days. Not the ones with SMD's and not the complex stuff like a Mesa where schematics are hard to come by, but the old Fender/Marshall/Vox stuff can be kept running by a lot of techy types if they put a little effort in. If you are technically inclined yourself, you might need to reinforce some friendships though.

 

[Chocol8]

If it's a public company, it's all about stock price. Cut staff first to meet numbers without hesitation. If it's private shop, the shop can close quickly whenever they've had enough. Wake up one morning and just decide to walk away.

Or wake up in a hospital bed with a new sense of mortality, or the kid that was taking over, falls for a girl from another continent and suddenly moves away to become an alpaca farmer (that really happened to a client of mine).

 

[Lysander]

I'll do a longer writeup soon, but i'm about a week in, and the HXS Floor has been officially ruled a keeper. This thing is amazing.

I'm playing a lot more, too. Stadium captures the experience of tweaking real amps and pedals in a way no other unit i've tried gets close, and it's really addictive.

 

[EOengineer]

I'll do a longer writeup soon, but i'm about a week in, and the HXS Floor has been officially ruled a keeper. This thing is amazing.

I'm playing a lot more, too. Stadium captures the experience of tweaking real amps and pedals in a way no other unit i've tried gets close, and it's really addictive.

It’s tough to describe what’s happening feel wise, but I spent a couple hours jamming on my AM4 this morning and I definitely prefer the way Stadium feels. I’m noticing the improvement in the edge of breakup and medium gain tones where I find the Fractal to be kind of thin and overhyped - almost like there’s a piezo blended in or something. It’s subtle but noticeable.

 

[AlbertA]

It’s tough to describe what’s happening feel wise, but I spent a couple hours jamming on my AM4 this morning and I definitely prefer the way Stadium feels. I’m noticing the improvement in the edge of breakup and medium gain tones where I find the Fractal to be kind of thin and overhyped - almost like there’s a piezo blended in or something. It’s subtle but noticeable.

Which ones are you trying here? (I have both the stadium and AM4, I want to see if I can hear/feel what you are saying)

 

[EOengineer]

Which ones are you trying here? (I have both the stadium and AM4, I want to see if I can hear/feel what you are saying)

I was using the deluxe reverb vibrato channel this morning where I noticed myself preferring the Agoura model over the AM4. The cleaner and edge of breakup stuff felt more amp like to me with a 60s spec telecaster. I wasn’t doing any deep editing on the AM4 though. I think I also prefer the Agoura AC30.

 

[Mongillo19]

I was using the deluxe reverb vibrato channel this morning where I noticed myself preferring the Agoura model over the AM4. The cleaner and edge of breakup stuff felt more amp like to me with a 60s spec telecaster. I wasn’t doing any deep editing on the AM4 though. I think I also prefer the Agoura AC30.

I too thought clean and edge of breakup sounded/felt better on the Stadium.

 

[Lysander]

I think I also prefer the Agoura AC30.

Man, the Agoura AC30 is

 

[GTR37]

Or wake up in a hospital bed with a new sense of mortality, or the kid that was taking over, falls for a girl from another continent and suddenly moves away to become an alpaca farmer (that really happened to a client of mine).

I got to be honest under reasons for business closing ,I did not have owner falls in love with foreign lady and moves to alpaca farm on my bingo card

 

[GTR37]

I was using the deluxe reverb vibrato channel this morning where I noticed myself preferring the Agoura model over the AM4. The cleaner and edge of breakup stuff felt more amp like to me with a 60s spec telecaster. I wasn’t doing any deep editing on the AM4 though. I think I also prefer the Agoura AC30.

And I agree w you by far Agoura best models when I had the AM4 side by side were things like
The Twin / Princeton /AC
The Bogner XTC was also really good
But I felt the similar to when the original Helix came out the clean and edge of breakup tones were really where it excelled , in the Heavier tones there was still something missing

 

[dean701]

anybody want to try this guy's free preset? I don't think he has any room for more blocks. lol
Honestly, I'm more interested on learning his routing for acoustic emulation.

 

[GTR37]

anybody want to try this guy's free preset? I don't think he has any room for more blocks. lol
Honestly, I'm more interested on learning his routing for acoustic emulation.

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**edit I just want to clarify it has nothing to do w the guys playing
I just don’t love the tones he is dialling in on the high gain it souds buzzy to my ears compared to a LT demo

 

[AlbertA]

 

[molul]

I'd say that right now, there are styles or genres that aren't covered - either very well, or just at all.

If that's true, then I hope Line6 fills all those gaps.and

To me, the Stadium would be perfect for a very broad audience if all iconic amp tones were properly covered with Agoura models. I wouldn't mind if they don't go for the "catch them all!" approach, which I find way more niche.

Now what I don't really know is which amps should be in that "essential amps" list, but it would be a fun exercise to build it (in another thread xD).

 

[fret gunk]

If that's true, then I hope Line6 fills all those gaps.and

To me, the Stadium would be perfect for a very broad audience if all iconic amp tones were properly covered with Agoura models. I wouldn't mind if they don't go for the "catch them all!" approach, which I find way more niche.

Now what I don't really know is which amps should be in that "essential amps" list, but it would be a fun exercise to build it (in another thread xD).

That is a fantastic idea for a modeler-agnostic thread - DONE!

 

[GTR37]

The Mesa actually sounds pretty on that Whitesnake stuff “Bad Boys”

 

[Chocol8]

I got to be honest under reasons for business closing ,I did not have owner falls in love with foreign lady and moves to alpaca farm on my bingo card

Ha, it wasn't the owner. It was his nephew who he spent around 15 years training to takeover from him. I am pretty sure the alpaca thing wasn't on his bingo card either.

 

[Foxmeister]

If you are looking to replicate your exact amp then profiling/capturing is the way.
Unfortunately, Proxy will take some time.

Isn't it supposed to be due to 1.30, which I thought was supposed to be at some point this month?

 

[Orvillain]

Isn't it supposed to be due to 1.30, which I thought was supposed to be at some point this month?

No. It isn't coming in 1.3.

 

[molul]

No. It isn't coming in 1.3.

Wow, first time I read this. I was totally convinced that it was coming with 1.3.