So what actually drew you to plunk down the serious cash for the Stadium?
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So what actually drew you to plunk down the serious cash for the Stadium?
Mongillo19
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EOengineer
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I figured. Sorry for the hashing this up again. You all are awesome I know you guys are paying attention and aim to please.
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I was hoping I could consolidate my modeller needs into one unit, and sell my Axe3. It's way too early to do that right now.
I don't want to be too hard on the Stadium - I do like it. I like it a lot. But I'm not properly wow'd or drunk in love with it yet.
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Similar sentiment here, which isn’t as negative as it seems on the surface. As things progress I’m feeling like there’s a lot of momentum behind Stadium, and that we’re going to be in “embarrassment of riches” territory before we know it. I’d love to know they are as responsive as they’ve been without decimating their development road map.
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Super fair take.
Keeping it a buck, I have similar hopes that it'll be the ONE to rule them all (I certainly can't see myself leaving it for any existing flagship floorboard modelers, and I've tried all the others), and I'm happy with the trajectory it's on thus far.
Is it all the way at the top of the pops across the board? No. Other units have better preset switching times, a healthier selection of reverbs (although I really like the Dynamic ones and the Glitz. But more is always better!), better rotaries, more modded Marshall options and more efficient DSP steps (looking at you, Fractal Channels).
But being 70-85 percent in those areas and being 90-100 percent on a lot of the Agoura stuff thus far while being somewhere around 200,000 percent for usability, workflow (I love the preset clips, Focus view and even like the sweetening from the Hype parameter) and on-unit UX makes me a very happy owner.
And I keep thinking...it'll always get better month after month and year after year.
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I think that is a very lofty thought. This technology is organic, vendors are always seeking improvement on their technologies. Well....except for K..
Tonex and NAM came out of nowhere and I can't imagine new vendors won't come to do the same in the coming years.
I don't think any flagship will be the best at every facet. I just meant it would be fun to operate and sport enough usability, variety, and reliability to keep me locked in for years to come.
And I think it is close to that now and will meet and exceed that standard - for my personal tastes only - soon.
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that I agree with. I have to have a talk with myself and just learn to settle on one unit.
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What plagues me most is wondering if that company will be around in 10 years or 4 for that matter.
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That's a very valid concern right now.
I would bet Yamaha will be around in 10 years, and if not we likely will have bigger problems, like Terminator type shit to deal with. Kemper, I doubt will still have any interest in guitar profilers in 10 years if they are in business at all. Those are the easy ones.
Fractal...how old is Cliff, when will he want to retire? There are all sorts of potential futures there. Too hard to predict.
NDSP...finally heading in a good direction but never underestimate their ability to screw up.
IK has been around long enough but they could walk away from a tech like Tonex any time. NAM being open source will be around, but who will be making hardware is alway an open question. Headrush, NUX, Hotub/Valiton/Sonicake and other Chinese brands could come and go any time with little warning.
Basically, you are rolling the dice with any of them.
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I'd like to think FAS as a business has a plan in place. Do the FM and AM engineers work on code separately or is it Cliff figuring it out and saying port this to the other devices.
I'm hopeful it's a collaborative effort with Cliff leading the charge.
I don't know if it's wise to buy a digital unit for longevity, that's for sure.
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I have similar math going on, although, if IK doesn't put out a Tonex Floor soon then I think they are broken. They could easily put out an AT5/Tonex floor modeler with TonexAmps/decent At5 effects including the new Sunset Reverb 2. If they did that for $750USD it would crush. They could go even further and integrate ReSing, ARC.... it's all just sitting there for them. Pay a hired gun and get it over with.
You hit all the other majors. Anyone could walk away at any time but I don't think L6 will.
I'll even throw Fender in that mix. I have no faith in them or their parent company
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Fender is a tough one, as is Boss. The company will be around, but I won't predict their long term support of any digital product. If it's profitable, they will stick with it. If not...
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My experience working with a lot of businesses is that most but far from all do have a plan, and sometimes that plan works out, but far more often it gets scrapped and replaced repeatedly before it's even time to implement it. Shit changes fast for small businesses. Even more so where there is key man risk. You just never know what the situation will be when the time comes.
