Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

[HomespunEffects]

Can you really not hear the difference in the clips that were just posted?

Yeah, they sound like someone changed the mids control.

 

[HomespunEffects]

Maybe start by backreading the thread a bit so you don’t look like such an asshole.

Yeah, I’m so glad i came back here. It was a mistake. Won’t make it again.

 

[EOengineer]

But that’s not how Line 6 has described Agoura - it doesn’t seem to be a “evolution” but a from the ground up new modeling engine. In that process it’s probably much more likely to have introduced a bug than if they had opted to refine the existing modeling.

But I’m not hearing / experiencing the Agoura modeling as flat, though. On the contrary, it’s much more dynamic and chewy, and has no weird distorted decays that rendered quite a few models useless to me in Helix.

I hope they fix the SIC or whatever is causing the lack of highend. But selfishly also hoping it won’t change the feel/response of the amp too much

With some of us digging into Agoura so hard it probably seems like we’re ripping it a new one, but there’s a ton of evolution in Agoura IMO. I still find it to feel most like plugging into a tube amp out of anything I have in the digital domain. The playing dynamics feel incredible and seem to be wider/more varied. I’ve also noticed Agoura responds to boosts and drives more realistically. These are each significant iterations in the technology.

There’s just this pesky thing we keep picking at. It’s so close.

 

[Lysander]

Now in this video, they match up much closer.

Honestly, the audio quality in that video is so bad it's hard to even tell them apart. Who shoots out modelers though a room mic?!

 

[EOengineer]

Yeah, I’m so glad i came back here. It was a mistake. Won’t make it again.

I mean…I value your input. We’ve had perfectly reasonable interactions on most things. Just seemed like you came in here wanting to dunk on people who are investing their nights and weekends to try and help move this conversation forward. That’s confusing.

 

[EOengineer]

Who shoots out modelers though a room mic?!

I’m not sure why this seems to be getting more prevalent. At times one really could make the case that we’re rapidly devolving.

 

[Lysander]

I’m not sure why this seems to be getting more prevalent. At times one really could make the case that we’re rapidly devolving.

Huh? I'm not throwing shade here - i'm legitimately having a hard time telling one device from another in that video, let alone judge which one sounds better.

I'll take the guy's word on all three sounding/feeling good.

 

[EOengineer]

Huh? I'm not throwing shade here - i'm legitimately having a hard time telling one device from another in that video, let alone judge which one sounds better.

I'll take the guy's word on all three sounding/feeling good.

It’s all good. I’m just saying I’m confused by how frequently we see demo comparisons from room mics.

 

[Elf]

but there’s a ton of evolution in Agoura IMO. I still find it to feel most like plugging into a tube amp out of anything I have in the digital domain. The playing dynamics feel incredible and seem to be wider/more varied. I’ve also noticed Agoura responds to boosts and drives more realistically. These are each significant iterations in the technology.

This is very cool to hear!

I can hear the differences in the posted MK2C+ samples but I’m more interested in the Plexi, 5150 and Double Rec. family of amps, have people encountered the same sound similarities in those Augora amps?

 

[Mongillo19]

Plexi, 5150 and Double Rec

There is no Ag. Model of the Dual Rec. People are hating on the Plexi but idk if it's an accuracy issue or just the model they picked to emulate. I didn't like the 5150 III blue or red models either as they were the 100w versions. I much prefer the 50w.

 

[JiveTurkey]

The Cali rectifier is a HX 1.0 amp and my favorite in the Stadium. As dumb as that may sound.

 

[Fireproof]

Y’all over here all “too dark,” “too much high end,” “properly wank,” “those comparisons sound pretty close,” “those sound totally different,” “I liked Agoura better,” “I liked fractal better…”. LOL.

I’m over here just jamming and playing the Stadium and getting sounds that are more than great enough for me and having fun. Loaded a couple songs on it, killed all but bass and drums and just jammed and riffed over it. Super cool that it’s easy to do directly on the device. Good times.

No offense to anyone that cares about the accuracy or how they compare and all that. I know that’s what these gear forums are for (in part)!

Just a friendly reminder that it’s fun to just dial in something and play…. If you are in to that sort of thing! Ha.

 

[ccc118]

This is very cool to hear!

I can hear the differences in the posted MK2C+ samples but I’m more interested in the Plexi, 5150 and Double Rec. family of amps, have people encountered the same sound similarities in those Augora amps?

I'm pretty sure I'm one of the only people on here that likes the Plexi. I recently tested out a demo of the UA Lion plugin and thought it was very similar, so that would give you an idea of what it sounds like.