Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

[Orvillain]

Well, it basically really only depends on CPU power. More juice = less calculation time needed.

This is wrong. At the very least, your latency time is dictated by the lowest note you want to support. Because you need at least a full cycle in order to correctly detect the pitch, in order to perform any shifting in the first place.

A low E on bass? 23ms minimum.

Even if you had some kind of magic nuclear computer, you still wouldn't be able to avoid latency. More juice does not equal less calculation time needed.

But there are also other sources of latency. Lookahead times in order to properly handle transient content. STFT or phase vocoder frame delay - which usually introduce half a window of algorithmic delay. Even if you take a granular approach to your algorithm, there's still the build up time required to gather enough samples to form a grain, and to then overlap multiple grains and apply crossfades.

Even resample based shifters introduce group delay.

There is always latency when it comes to pitch shifting.

 

[mikah912]

Yeah I'm aware of that. But whenever I layer up a Plexi style amp with another, like a Diezel or something, I rarely like it.

Actually one of the best tones I ever had was stacking my VH4 with the Crunch Red channel on my Satriani JVM. Roll on proxy hey!!!!

Layer it with the HX Diezel. You might be surprised.

 

[dean701]

Okay. I'm going to reveal my ignorance here a bit.

How do I get a good tone out of a Plexi??? Because I keep failing. I want to get an Adam Jones kind of tone. Nice chuggo's and soaring leads. But I just end up with fuzzy wooly bullcack every time.

What do I do with the drive controls??

I play in Drop-B and Drop-C. I guess that might be the issue?

I'm pretty sure Adam Jones relies on the Diezel VH4 for his sound. If you're looking for more of the classic rock sound then the plexi is king.

 

[GTR37]

I'm pretty sure Adam Jones relies on the Diezel VH4 for his sound. If you're looking for more of the classic rock sound then the plexi is king.

I just found this guy from Montreal demoing all the Wolfgang’s and some Charvel
Kid is insane
Also make me want the guitars

 

[DanRad]

Is there a good Angoura amp for clean/acoustic sounds, or is Clarity still the gold standard for that?

One thing I'm running into is that if I swap in Clarity to a preset that has a Jazz Rivet in it (left over from before I discovered the Clarity), I'm getting almost a fuzz sound from the default settings and have to really work to dial that back to something clean and acoustic-sounding. Anyone else running into that?

I'm definitely have issues with Clarity acting like there's a fuzz pedal somewhere in the chain. I cannot figure out what's happening, but it did not happen with my OG Helix.

 

[banned]

Okay. I'm going to reveal my ignorance here a bit.

How do I get a good tone out of a Plexi??? Because I keep failing. I want to get an Adam Jones kind of tone. Nice chuggo's and soaring leads. But I just end up with fuzzy wooly bullcack every time.

What do I do with the drive controls??

I play in Drop-B and Drop-C. I guess that might be the issue?

Switch to the Helix Plexi. If needed, change Sag (I usually dial up to between 8-9).

If you want more dirt - add the Top Secret OD in front.

The Stadium Plexi I can't seem to get along with. It can sound ok over headphones but when I play through a real guitar cab, it's just no good - wooly, splatty, muffled.

 

[GTR37]

Switch to the Helix Plexi. If needed, change Sag (I usually dial up to between 8-9).

If you want more dirt - add the Top Secret OD in front.

The Stadium Plexi I can't seem to get along with. It can sound ok over headphones but when I play through a real guitar cab, it's just no good - wooly, splatty, muffled.

To be fair Bogner blue is based on a later 70s JMP
It will be a bit darker before tweaking but you should be able to find similar tones to a hot plexi
Basically Bogner blue JMP w 3 gain stage jcm800 level
Bogner Red same but 4 gain stage equivalent of SLO