global blocks, modifiers, not bright enough LEDs or anything related to UI stuff. It'll be just about the audio side of things.
I think these kind of things are somewhat binary, no one will disagree with wanting to improve them. I think it's tough to debate on something thats going to have essentially total agreement from all. Amp modelling is more of a grey area and harder to quantify in absolutes.
What we however don't see is *any* other improvements on the sound shaping side of things. There's not one single new drive model, not one single new compressor, filter, pitch, modulation, delay, reverb or whatever models. Zero. Nada. Zilch.
In all of these categories, there's some pretty great, some good, some not so good and some pretty bad models - but I guess we can agree that there's room for improvement.
Totally agree. I think again, everyone would agree. Line 6 made it pretty clear with the launch that there would only be new amps for now and that new FX would come later. Not sure what there is to debate here, unless people disagree with facts.
just looking at Valhalla's Supermassive or Sixth Sample's Deelay is sufficient. They're both doing things the L6 delays could only dream of. And they're *super* inspiring to fool around with. Or look at modulations and, say, Valhalla's Space Modulator. Just incredible. We could as well proceed to reverbs. Check out NI's Raum and see how easy it is to get a whole plethora of very interesting (and usable) sounds out of it. And fwiw, all the mentioned plugins are freeware.
Agree. I think things like this will probably come in Stadium's lifespan. Early days still, and Im sure L6 are aware of what's out there and what people are used to using.
I think part of the reason there is a discussion on the amp side of things is because thats one of the newest areas Line 6 have released. Even if the previous generation was pretty good, there was absolutely room to improve on the amp modelling side, and seeing as the FX and cabs are identical to before, the focus is naturally going to be on the amp modelling. If Stadium's new models were all Spring reverbs, I think we'd be discussing those, or if they changed the cab engine, that would get more discussion. I dont think it's wrong for the discussion to be on their newest algorithms.
Moreso, the vast majority of users are going to be using amplifier models (even if just a handful of amps). Niche effects will ultimately only get used by a smaller number of users and there's probably less to debate about them (compared to the meat and potatoes stuff). I dont expect everyone to care about the last few % of amplifier modelling (just because I do), and similarly, the number of users who care about other features will also be similarly small. Thats kind of the point - we all have our own areas of things we're interested in. And thats fine.
It does make for a boring-ass read when you don’t care about accuracy, though
Such is the case for forums for anything you don’t care about. I’d rather drink bleach than read more posts about aliasing or real time latency but those discussions always come up constantly too. The topics always rotate and quickly move onto something else anyway. The accuracy discussions usually pop up when someone discovers something and wants to share it.
