Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

I'm curious - if there was a feature on Stadium that could create AI presets for you (the new PG Bias X currently does but fails miserably), what would your first prompt be to test it out?
Give me a preset that makes me sound like all of my zoomer heros so that I can avoid having an original thought even just once in my entire lifetime. PS: Kill me and feed me to pigs. I am nothing but feed.
 
I'm curious - if there was a feature on Stadium that could create AI presets for you (the new PG Bias X currently does but fails miserably), what would your first prompt be to test it out?
"Sabbra Cadabra."

And if anyone would like to make fun of me by telling me how easy it is to get that sound... and then tell me how to get that sound... I'm all ears. I have in fact asked ChatGPT or whatever engine is now inescapably lodged into Google Chrome, and it was the same old drivel about how Tony used a Rangemaster treble booster. :idk
 
Hey @Digital Igloo , just FYI - Michael Nielsen (Big Hairy Guitars) has a question for you on your latest Youtube video in the comments

You really should get a unit to him - I share his taste in tones, and he does great demos.
 
Hey everyone! Good news and bad news:

The Good News: Even if you've already sold Helix/HX in anticipation of Stadium, from HX Edit's File menu, select "Extract Files From Backup.” You get all the individual files needed to import backups into Stadium. So... my big point about perhaps needing to send your full-state backups to our CS team was wholly unnecessary.

The Bad News: I'm dumb and had no idea HX Edit did this. <hangs head in shame>

This is what happens when brilliant engineers sneak in helpful features that weren't defined.
 
"Sabbra Cadabra."

And if anyone would like to make fun of me by telling me how easy it is to get that sound... and then tell me how to get that sound... I'm all ears. I have in fact asked ChatGPT or whatever engine is now inescapably lodged into Google Chrome, and it was the same old drivel about how Tony used a Rangemaster treble booster. :idk
It would be very cool to see some old Laney amps, cabs, and vintage mics, in the Helix world... that might help.

But.... a lot of those old studio recordings used some form of double tracking, some pretty heavy reverb in places (the intro), and tracked through some not-so-close mic techniques... etc, and not to be ignored is that Tony was really unique with playing really light strings and probably specific pickups, and his methods of actually playing with his leather? finger tip replacements and whatever.

It's a bit of a rabbit hole that, and he probably doesn't even know how to recreate 'those tones'.
 
Hey everyone! Good news and bad news:

The Good News: Even if you've already sold Helix/HX in anticipation of Stadium, from HX Edit's File menu, select "Extract Files From Backup.” You get all the individual files needed to import backups into Stadium. So... my big point about perhaps needing to send your full-state backups to our CS team was wholly unnecessary.

The Bad News: I'm dumb and had no idea HX Edit did this. <hangs head in shame>

This is what happens when brilliant engineers sneak in helpful features that weren't defined.

Any other good news...? ;)
 
It would be very cool to see some old Laney amps, cabs, and vintage mics, in the Helix world... that might help.

But.... a lot of those old studio recordings used some form of double tracking, some pretty heavy reverb in places (the intro), and tracked through some not-so-close mic techniques... etc, and not to be ignored is that Tony was really unique with playing really light strings and probably specific pickups, and his methods of actually playing with his leather? finger tip replacements and whatever.

It's a bit of a rabbit hole that, and he probably doesn't even know how to recreate 'those tones'.
I pretty much live in that rabbit hole LOL.

Double-tracking is definitely a part of it. I think I'm hearing a cocked wah or filter effect mixed in, but I haven't been able to find a balance that sounds convincing. This era of Sabbath is tricky, because there's tons of gain, but there's some studio trickery happening that keeps the guitar from disappearing into the mix.
 
I completely disagree. In fact, I think it's our moral obligation to fight AI in some areas (I don't even deny it could be very useful in other areas). Anything creative qualifies for that.
That's ok. Eventually you'll realize that fighting is pointless. Now, in 5 years, or 10 years ago. Crap music and crap art in general has been with us for decades already.

And at some point you'll discover an AI feature somewhere that will make you think "maybe not everything is bad about this".

Is this the good news or the bad news?
Both. Bad news: I'm sure we'll see a new Michael Jackson album made with AI, and people won't even care if it's AI. Good news: I don't think it's crazy to think that the cure for several diseases (cancer, Alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, psoriasis...) could come from AI-driven researches.

I'm curious - if there was a feature on Stadium that could create AI presets for you (the new PG Bias X currently does but fails miserably), what would your first prompt be to test it out?
"Give me the sound of distorted guitars in Smashing Pumpkins' 'The everlasting gaze', please" (I always say"please"; you never know).

For music.
I was talking exclusively about the AI feature I was suggesting (preset creation from prompt).
 
Hey @Digital Igloo , just FYI - Michael Nielsen (Big Hairy Guitars) has a question for you on your latest Youtube video in the comments

You really should get a unit to him - I share his taste in tones, and he does great demos.
You want me to slog through the YouTube comment section looking for a specific question to answer? How much do you hate me?
 
I pretty much live in that rabbit hole LOL.

Double-tracking is definitely a part of it. I think I'm hearing a cocked wah or filter effect mixed in, but I haven't been able to find a balance that sounds convincing. This era of Sabbath is tricky, because there's tons of gain, but there's some studio trickery happening that keeps the guitar from disappearing into the mix.
Yeah same, been down that hole many a time.
Those Sabbath tones (Tony and Geezer combined) are just too amazing.
 
You want me to slog through the YouTube comment section looking for a specific question to answer? How much do you hate me?

Well, it's there - I don't know how to link to it. Some guy named erickuehnl has been doing replies. I think some people think that that's you :p

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@BigHairyGuitars

1 day ago
Are any of the FX updated? Reverb chorus delay etc? Thanks

@erickuehnl

1 day ago (edited)
They already announced that the FX wouldn’t be updated in 1.0 - 1.2. But hopefully after that!
 
Both. Bad news: I'm sure we'll see a new Michael Jackson album made with AI, and people won't even care if it's AI. Good news: I don't think it's crazy to think that the cure for several diseases (cancer, Alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, psoriasis...) could come from AI-driven researches.
When that Michael Jackson album drops, I won't even care that it's AI. That isn't even a blip on the "shit I call bad news" radar. I'm thinking a few steps further out from there. I agree about the potential for curing diseases however, that is very important potential good news.

(P.S. We're in the wrong thread.)
 
When that Michael Jackson album drops, I won't even care that it's AI. That isn't even a blip on the "shit I call bad news" radar. I'm thinking a few steps further out from there. I agree about the potential for curing diseases however, that is very important potential good news.

(P.S. We're in the wrong thread.)
Unless that release includes Helix Stadium presets !!! Return of the Son of Smoove Criminal pack.
 
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