Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[mbenigni]

Only one way to settle this. TGF Stadium TourBox it is.

First!

 

[mbenigni]

You say that knowing what a Snickers is and what it is like to eat one.

!chocol8

 

[mbenigni]

You don't seem to fully understand what the hype knob is about. But fortunately, Mr. Igloo just posted it above:



In my book, that hasn't got all too much to do with how a recorded amp signal needs to be adjusted to suit a mix but much more about how it feels in your hands. And as has also been stated, the hype knob possibly does something different for different amps. Again nothing mix-relevant but rather a thing about how the amp feels and reacts.

I have a suspicion that one might want to apply different amounts of Hype depending on the volume they’re playing at, the room they’re in, their playback system, position relative to, etc, etc. E.g. if I’m in my bedroom, an “authentic” plexi might not be practical - I might want a little more squish or whatever to compensate. On stage or otherwise “at volume”, I’d probably prefer that the model be closer to real world experience/ expectations. Something like a Hype knob would add a lot of value in quickly adapting any given amp for different applications.

 

[mbenigni]

I think the Hype knob will be a great quick tool for shaping the sound of any amp model quickly into a direction that might appeal to the user. It might make a strident Marshall smoother, give a dull Normal channel of a Fender a bit more sparkle etc. Just do something that the original amp model does not do by tweaking controls.


For me, totally the opposite. The dumbest thing about the UA Ruby is how only one mode of the amp channels is adjustable with the treble/bass EQ controls. Only because the original amp was like that. But this is digital, why not just offer the option? "Turn these to zero for an authentic behavior on the Normal channel or give yourself some extra tweakability by turning them up." Purists can leave them down, others can make use of them. Instead to me the UA Ruby's Top Boost channel is the only one I actually like on that plugin. On the other plugins there's also often just one mode/channel/variant that I actually like. Same for their cab selection.

Amps have been modded for a long time. People have clipped off bright caps, swapped them for different values, altered tone stacks, added extra gain stages, used different tubes. All these make those amps "less authentic", but many have turned into signature features of brands like say Bogner, Mesa, Friedman etc.

I think the Hype knob will be effectively an adjustable amp mod from Line6. The Focus mode is like a stage tech that will tweak the amp by deciphering the interpretive dance of your finger on the touchscreen.

I've said before that I would gladly throw every brand name amp model found in modelers into the thrash can and use only original models if they sound good.

Give me the Line6 He Gets US model that sounds better than the best Fender amp models.
Give me the Line6 Super Shart model that sounds like the best Marshall "brown sound" ever made.
Give me the Line6 My Anaconda Don't Want None Unless You Got Badonk Hun model that sounds like the biggest, ballsiest, yet tight high gain thing. No matter how it's achieved.

Squirrel Removal Machine (tm)

 

[KingsXJJ]

I have a suspicion that one might want to apply different amounts of Hype depending on the volume they’re playing at, the room they’re in, their playback system, and any number of other variables. E.g. if I’m in my bedroom, an “authentic” plexi might not be practical - I might want a little more squish or whatever to compensate. On stage or otherwise “at volume”, I’d probably prefer that the model be closer to real world experience/ expectations. Something like a Hype knob would add a lot of value in quickly adapting any given amp for different applications.

Hmmm. We might need a 5 band parametric Hype setup for that.

“Kirk to Engineering…”

 

[mbenigni]

We can request a “sometimes” option!

Two times a day, max!

 

[EOengineer]

Actually, a multiband compressor would be better. :)

But the whole point is to hide all that and make it easier.

Multiband compressor could be a lot of fun to control on that big touch screen.

 

[banned]

The Vox sounds proper fantastic! But then again, so does the model in the present Helix. But curious how Agoura will be different when playing dynamically in person. Maybe some feel changes possibly. We'll see.

I have no trouble dialing in amps on Helix, but I'd be interested in Focus view for the Reverbs & Delays - to see how the L6 team highlights the art of the possible there.

With delays, I've no problems with the sounds but would be nice to see some additional possibilities and pick up a few tricks maybe.

With Reverb, would love to hear how the L6 team can dial in to compare effectively to the latest state of art in industry.

 

[Chocol8]

!chocol8

On a snickers? Brown waxy shit meant to appear like chocolate to stupid American consumers.

 

[JiveTurkey]

On a snickers? Brown waxy shit meant to appear like chocolate to stupid American consumers.

DARK BELUGA CHOCOLATE WASN'T AVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF HELPFUL REMARK

 

[AlbertA]

On a snickers? Brown waxy shit meant to appear like chocolate to stupid American consumers.

 

[Chocol8]

DARK BELUGA CHOCOLATE WASN'T AVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF HELPFUL REMARK

Now you are pushing whale chocolate? Is that higher or lower than whale shit?

 

[JiveTurkey]

Now you are pushing whale chocolate? Is that higher or lower than whale shit?

 

[Chocol8]

Third times a charm!

 

[Elf]

Is there a setting to show only @Digital Igloo replays in a Thread?

 

[synthpenguin]

Is there a setting to show only @Digital Igloo replays in a Thread?

lol

But kind of: https://thegearforum.com/search/91305/?t=post&c[thread]=9058&c[users]=Digital+Igloo

 

[KingsXJJ]

Is there a setting to show only @Digital Igloo replays in a Thread?

You can always just hit refresh. All the replays you could ever want.

 

[Whizzinby]

As long as the underlying model is the stock amp and it sounds like the stock amp with Hype off, then I’m not sure what problem is. Hype is just a bonus feature.

Surely when you select an amp, Hype is not going to be engaged by default, right? (Presets maybe, but not when you are selecting amps)

 

[JiveTurkey]

PUBLIC ENEMY WARNED US

 

[Digital Igloo]

Surely when you select an amp, Hype is not going to be engaged by default, right?

Hype is set to "Off" on all amp defaults (and I believe Focus zones).