VERY small stages sure, unless you want one half of the room to get cymbals and the other half, guitar
BLOWN AWAY by how massive a well mixed show can sound at 98dB SPL slow C weighted when a band knows what they are doing. Can sound a lot bigger than a cymbal vs amp stage volume fest at 114SPLYou can play killer metal without being at unbearably loud levels (except for the bass, kick, and 7 string guitar low end of course ..... which needs to be loud and so punchy it causes heart palpitations near the stage).
This....it takes an exceptional level of musician and an even more exceptional level of ego control for this to work, but it can be done, and even then it would STILL sound much better with reasonable stage volume and letting the PA do the heavy lifting
Bands need to make a choice with the NIOSH standards coming online and localities giving the liquor commissions the ability to fine for SPL limits. Show me a liquor commission that doesn't fine every chance they get. Bands can play at volumes that don't physically hurt people and chase away the customers, or the club will more sensibly just hire DJs and/or karaoke. Its not like this isn't already happening for just this reason and now name brand companies aren't working on quieter drum solutionsClearly, given the importance of silent stage and the limitations of the room, the correct solution is to just play remotely and stream a video of your studio performance for folks to watch while they listen to your glorious sound through the PA.
I’m not about to try and reconfigure the venue for a half hour set. We’re already obnoxious enough with our IEM setup and tracks.Unless you are playing stadiums, you need to get a drum shield and get the stage volume down. Trying to overpower each other's stage volume is the wrong way to go.
Most venues can't handle the sound level needed for a band to mix around a very loud drummer. By the time you get everything to that level, no one can stand to be within 50 feet of the stage.
You can play killer metal without being at unbearably loud levels (except for the bass, kick, and 7 string guitar low end of course ..... which needs to be loud and so punchy it causes heart palpitations near the stage
Chapter: what amps to use , paragraph 1.13 what to aim for on stage, 1.14 extreme example where you don’t wanna rely on the PA.
This.
If there actually is a "PA guy." The reality of working musicians- there are quite a few here in the DFW metroplex, and quite a few venues that have live music - is that you will have to rely on your amp for the audience to hear you and that it is incumbent on you to know how to play ensemble. As one example, I've watched Andy Timmons play local bars/restaurants with no house PA and I've heard him via his amp alone. At one of these venues - the Kitchen Cafe - I sat directly in front of him. Not only was he not too loud, the "mix" was balanced. Assertions to the effect this this is not the essential performance mode are delusional. Good musicians know how to play ensemble and don't need a "PA guy" to make them sound balanced.
The answer is none. The venue can't tell whether your sound came from a combo amp or a monitor. Frequencies is frequencies. If somebody else's tube combo "cuts" through and your monitor doesn't, it has nothing to do with any intrinsic limitations of two-way monitors.
Awesome. I’m imagining there’s him and about 100 more pro musicians who justify its existence. It’s funny and I’m serious at the same time.
How did you come to find out that your guitar is inaudible? Is this just what people in the audience are telling you, or are you going out into the venue floor while playing with the band to hear the mix?
