IK Multimedia TONEX

[Shask]

I'm surprised we haven't seen new Tonex hardware at NAMM yet.

I really thought we would see an Amplitube pedal also. Not like a Fractal or something, but something say in the $600 range that is basically Amplitube 5 in a pedal with a small simple screen and 4-6 switches.

 

[Sleezy E]

Just picked up an AirStep for my Tonex One..

Long story short, I picked up the TxOne on offerup for $80 a while back just to use on my 4x12 power amp setup in the front room. I only really use it when I want to be obnoxiously loud. The Tx was a perfect fit just to toggle between clean and dirt... but then I saw the AirStep was $95 shipped for the holidays.

This setup is now fully gig ready should I want to use it. The ability to adjust the Tonex from the AirStep app on my phone is really the coolest thing about it.

Also, my cab is setup in stereo and the stereo mods/verbs in the tonex sound great through it. (that's a TRS going to the amp, cabs are set to global bypass))

 

[Sascha Franck]

I’m as interested as I am terrified of the prospect of a flagship from them that marries Amplitube, Tonex, their effects models, etc.

The idea of an all-in IK modeler is, well, "fascinating". I'd expect the heart failure rate among digital guitarists to skyrocket (after purchasing the thing, trying to make things work).

 

[SaberRed]

Just picked up an AirStep for my Tonex One..

Long story short, I picked up the TxOne on offerup for $80 a while back just to use on my 4x12 power amp setup in the front room. I only really use it when I want to be obnoxiously loud. The Tx was a perfect fit just to toggle between clean and dirt... but then I saw the AirStep was $95 shipped for the holidays.

This setup is now fully gig ready should I want to use it. The ability to adjust the Tonex from the AirStep app on my phone is really the coolest thing about it.

Also, my cab is setup in stereo and the stereo mods/verbs in the tonex sound great through it. (that's a TRS going to the amp, cabs are set to global bypass))

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I have a similar home set up. The airstep is fantastic. I have the 5 banks set as 5 different amps with 4 captures from clean to max gain.

 

[silcvale]

Would anyone be kind enough to send me the latest ToneX ASIO drivers that IK Multimeter doesnt seem to allow downloading from the website from unless you have a IK account along with the registered hardware device on the account.
I Would really appreciate being able to test this pedal out before registering it on there in case i want to send it back.
Thank you very much for any help.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I Would really appreciate being able to test this pedal out before registering it on there in case i want to send it back.

Should cause no issues if you registered it as it can always be de-registered free of charge.
Still, I just downloaded the latest ones, see your PMs in a minute or so.

 

[bucephalus]

I agree. I like my Tonex but I'd love an update with a modern screen and higher quality input and XLR outs. Maybe an actual fx loop. I don't need or want a box that does everything.

Yeah, a screen where you could read the whole patch name would be a start wouldn't it?

 

[Chocol8]

I made some V2 captures on a M3 MacBook Pro, fully intending to move to a desktop PC with a GPU for training, but I let them run on the MacBook and it only took about 25 minutes each to train. So 2.5 hours to go through 6 of them. That's plenty good for me now that we can batch process them. I think in the future I will only bother moving them to the PC if I am capturing in much higher volume which I may never do.

 

[Progressive_disclosure]

I made some V2 captures on a M3 MacBook Pro, fully intending to move to a desktop PC with a GPU for training, but I let them run on the MacBook and it only took about 25 minutes each to train. So 2.5 hours to go through 6 of them. That's plenty good for me now that we can batch process them. I think in the future I will only bother moving them to the PC if I am capturing in much higher volume which I may never do.

I took awhile to do Extended on my M2 but I had the same reflection. I won’t make captures 24/7 so the time it takes is no gigantic deal.

What did you capture?

 

[Shask]

I made some V2 captures on a M3 MacBook Pro, fully intending to move to a desktop PC with a GPU for training, but I let them run on the MacBook and it only took about 25 minutes each to train. So 2.5 hours to go through 6 of them. That's plenty good for me now that we can batch process them. I think in the future I will only bother moving them to the PC if I am capturing in much higher volume which I may never do.

My PC with a 5070 GPU takes about 8 minutes per extended capture, just to give you a reference.

I have been making a ton of captures lately of all my Synergy modules.

 

[Chocol8]

I took awhile to do Extended on my M2 but I had the same reflection. I won’t make captures 24/7 so the time it takes is no gigantic deal.

What did you capture?

My PC with a 5070 GPU takes about 8 minutes per extended capture, just to give you a reference.

I have been making a ton of captures lately of all my Synergy modules.

I found it took a lot longer (over an hour) on the Mac with V1 plus you had to wait, so I quickly stopped doing that and dealt with moving amps and shit to be near the PC. With V2 it seems to be much faster, at least on an M3 and presumably later chip, plus the ability to do a bunch of quick captures and train later is really the big "game changer" for me.

My PC has a 4080 and would be significantly faster than the Mac, but the hassle of copying the files over and then walking to a different room to kick it off would only be worth it to me for larger batches. Now, if I were doing it professionally, I could definitely see the advantages of capturing on a laptop and having a workhorse machine (or multiple) doing the training.

The captures I made were of the 61 Pro I picked up at year end, but running through a Suhr RL IR as both the DI and the load. My wife and daughter were home cooking and doing craft shit through the storm, and the amp is in the family room, so I didn't want to rattle the walls too much. At some point when I have the house to myself I want to capture the same settings using the installed JBL as the load, and maybe a couple other cab/speaker combos and see how much of an audible difference is coming through.

 

[Shask]

I found it took a lot longer (over an hour) on the Mac with V1 plus you had to wait, so I quickly stopped doing that and dealt with moving amps and shit to be near the PC. With V2 it seems to be much faster, at least on an M3 and presumably later chip, plus the ability to do a bunch of quick captures and train later is really the big "game changer" for me.

My PC has a 4080 and would be significantly faster than the Mac, but the hassle of copying the files over and then walking to a different room to kick it off would only be worth it to me for larger batches. Now, if I were doing it professionally, I could definitely see the advantages of capturing on a laptop and having a workhorse machine (or multiple) doing the training.

The captures I made were of the 61 Pro I picked up at year end, but running through a Suhr RL IR as both the DI and the load. My wife and daughter were home cooking and doing craft shit through the storm, and the amp is in the family room, so I didn't want to rattle the walls too much. At some point when I have the house to myself I want to capture the same settings using the installed JBL as the load, and maybe a couple other cab/speaker combos and see how much of an audible difference is coming through.

My old laptop would take like 10 hours on the low quality capture, lol. I got a new PC, and it would crash because they didn't support 50xx GPUs yet. It wasn't until V2 came around that I could actually capture anything. It has been huge for me, because making my own captures is really what won ToneX over for me, even over Fractal and NAM.

I typically use a Fractal LB-2 loadbox when making captures, I definitely notice a difference in feel and tone when I capture with the loadbox vs plugging into a real cab, and I find using the loadbox + dialing in with IRs produces better direct captures, and real cab dialing and only use the loadbox as a DI produces better captures for loading into the ToneX One and playing with a solid state poweramp into the same cabs.

 

[Chocol8]

real cab dialing and only use the loadbox as a DI produces better captures for loading into the ToneX One and playing with a solid state poweramp into the same cabs.

This is what I have been doing for almost all captures. I only do DI captures, and whether I use them with a real cab or with IR's into headphones or a CLR/FR-10 frfr, I use a real cab as the load. The last ones I did with the Suhr as the load may have been 2+ years ago now that I think about it.

While I did test internal speakers (open back combo) vs the Suhr, I haven't really tested the same amp through different cabs. I am thinking of maybe testing the Pro driving a few different loads, perhaps the 1x15" JBL, a 1x12 open back (with various speakers?) 4x10 open back Super or Tweed Bassman (wired series/parallel to 8 ohms), open back 2x12 Twin Reverb or vertical 2x12, and closed back 2x12 (various speakers?) or whatever to see how much of a difference it makes with v2 captures.

I will probably run some impedance curve sweeps first to pick out combinations that look different enough on paper, because I think a lot of stuff I have will be very similar. For example, I have Scumback ceramic M75's and Alnico SC75 and S75-PVC's, and also Celestion 20w Greenbacks which may all behave very similarly in the same 2x12 cab as far as impedance is concerned and I am not sure an open back 1x12 would be significantly different than an open back 2x12 of similar construction and dimensions when loaded with the same or similar speakers. Anyway, I'll try to find combinations that are different enough to see if the capture ends up different enough to justify having multiple sets.

 

[silcvale]

I am a previous user of Amplitube which i would use by plugging in my guitar and headphones to a USB audio interface and then sending the guitar in and listening to the amplitube output via the interface through my headphones. It worked well for years. It was great because i could listen simultaneously to the great guitar tone and also listen to any music or videos on the PC with hardly any noticeable latency.

I have just (yesterday) bought the tonex pedal. I can see that there is both a "Live" and "Interface" modes.
I would like to be able to listen to both the guitar tone from the pedal and any audio (music/videos) on the computer via USB. When i am in monitor mode, i cannot hear any guitar output at all. Only the PC output. In the manual is says i should be able to monitor using headphones but i cannot hear anything.

The control panel for the device also seems to have mauted sliders for all inputs and outputs on the device:

I have tried to select the "Listen To." option under Windows but the latency of the guitar is unbearable.
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I think that i have maybe bought the wrong device. Is it at all possible to just be able to listen to the tonex pedal and any USB audio from the PC without having to launch a DAW. This interface does not have any Audio inserts like other interfaces so audio has to come via USB.

I've tried to be as clear as possible.
Thanks for any help you may have on this issue.

 

[Chocol8]

Is it at all possible to just be able to listen to the tonex pedal and any USB audio from the PC without having to launch a DAW.

Not unless they added that functionality. It can work with the Tonex One and maybe the plug, but not the big pedal.