IK Multimedia TONEX

Sascha Franck said:
Why has Dimiguitar been deleted?
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It was his request.

While I had no problem with Dimi, I’m befuddled at the idea of “I voluntarily signed up to this forum on my own free will, made posts here of my own volition, but now I have a personal issue with someone here so please take responsibility of my account and delete it”. Joined my first forum 30 years ago and have yet to have had my account deleted on one. If I decided not to shop at a store again, I wouldn’t go ask security to delete all the footage of my walking around before deciding not to shop there again.

Now I could see if we were hosting a litany of scientific research papers that were user-submitted, or we had some kind of library of resource material provided by the members where their posts became a benefit to TGF in a meaningful way, but we’re bullshitting about fuckin’ guitar gear.
 
IIRC Amalgam had pledged to update and release V2 versions for paying users of their V1 packs. Anyone aware of how that’s been going?

I’m getting lots of emails about new packs. Haven’t noticed much chatter in the way of updated collections.
 
MonoKultur said:
Karlis said, he first is working on his new website/Shop and some other things. Redoing old v1 to v2 will follow afterwards…
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Yes, I don’t think he has the capability to distribute the free upgrades until the new website back end is running. He warned it would be a while.
 
Hey folks, I know questions like this often spark debates that derail the thread, and that’s not my intention here. But this thread has so many great ears, and I’d genuinely love to hear your thoughts.

How do you feel the Tonex v2 Tone Models compare to the new Neural Capture v2 in the Quad Cortex? I’m asking because the info I’ve found online has been a bit mixed. I watched Leo Gibson’s tests, and to me it looks like ToneX and Quad Cortex are pretty much neck and neck now, with a slight edge to ToneX in the null tests.

On the other hand, in the test Amalgam Audio posted on YouTube, it seems to go the other way, with the Quad Cortex being slightly more accurate.

What’s your take on this?
 
prog n roll said:
Hey folks, I know questions like this often spark debates that derail the thread, and that’s not my intention here. But this thread has so many great ears, and I’d genuinely love to hear your thoughts.

How do you feel the Tonex v2 Tone Models compare to the new Neural Capture v2 in the Quad Cortex? I’m asking because the info I’ve found online has been a bit mixed. I watched Leo Gibson’s tests, and to me it looks like ToneX and Quad Cortex are pretty much neck and neck now, with a slight edge to ToneX in the null tests.

On the other hand, in the test Amalgam Audio posted on YouTube, it seems to go the other way, with the Quad Cortex being slightly more accurate.

What’s your take on this?
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They are extremely close and which is better may depend, but I think if one has the edge it might be QC v2 and I think it may have a slight edge over NAM as well. That said, they are close enough where it doesn't matter. The difference between Tonex and QC lies in the different features and pricing, not the amp tones.

As for Leo, he is a fucking idiot, and his null tests are completely useless. This is a good example of why. Listen to the Amalgam clips carefully and use your ears. They tell you way more than any LUFS number ever could no matter who runs the testing. That said YouTube is not great audio quality, so it's best to test on your own with the tones and gear you would use. One might be better for me and the other better for you.
 
Richard_G said:
Ah… so let me rephrase: I’ve had a suspicion that we’ll see new Tonex hardware sooner rather than later. I hoped NAMM could be a relevant occasion, but perhaps not.
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What hardware are you looking for? I’m as interested as I am terrified of the prospect of a flagship from them that marries Amplitube, Tonex, their effects models, etc. Their AxeIO and capture interfaces are total garbage and need updates IMO.
 
EOengineer said:
flagship from them that marries Amplitube, Tonex, their effects models, etc.
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I honestly think this would be a bad idea for them. The cost of such a unit would put them in competition with the big boys where I don't think they could compete well.

I love Tonex for what it is, but if I wanted something more full featured, and the price got to be close to $1000 or more, I would be looking at a QC Mini, AM4, and Stadium and I am not sure IK would win even if a little cheaper. Now as a great amp sim at the end of my analog pedal boards? Yeah, Tonex is the current king by a good margin.
 
Chocol8 said:
I honestly think this would be a bad idea for them. The cost of such a unit would put them in competition with the big boys where I don't think they could compete well.

I love Tonex for what it is, but if I wanted something more full featured, and the price got to be close to $1000 or more, I would be looking at a QC Mini, AM4, and Stadium and I am not sure IK would win even if a little cheaper. Now as a great amp sim at the end of my analog pedal boards? Yeah, Tonex is the current king by a good margin.
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They’ve dabbled enough in hardware in the last decade that I’m pretty sure we will see them make a run at it. The execution will be questionable, thus my having reservations about it. If they landed it, I do think they could be competitive but long term I’d not expect to ever see them iterating at a Fractal or L6 pace.

It would definitely be a risky move.
 
EOengineer said:
What hardware are you looking for? I’m as interested as I am terrified of the prospect of a flagship from them that marries Amplitube, Tonex, their effects models, etc. Their AxeIO and capture interfaces are total garbage and need updates IMO.
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I’d like IK to move beyond the "consumer-level" space with Tonex and offer a new "pro-level" Tonex hardware solution. I don’t mean this in a condescending way: I genuinely like Tonex but I believe the tech could be better utilised in hardware where targeting "every consumer" isn’t necessarily the primary design goal.

We could start with features such as higher maximum input dBu levels, a higher sampling rate than 44.1 kHz, digital I/O, an FX loop, MIDI I/O, possibly stereo I/O, enough footswitches to accommodate real-world needs (depending on what’s included in the box with respect to FX, etc.), as well as improved UI and UX.
 
Personally, I don’t have a lot of use for a Tonex all in one. I may very well be in the minority though. I use my own overdrives in front of the Tonex big Anniversary edition and a Source Audio Collider after it, I also run a Boss DD-3 behind it as well in case I wanna stack delays. Tonex is my amp and cab. I don’t run a stereo rig live either. Those type of features I don’t use, so they are lost on me.
 
Yeah, I don’t necessarily want an all-in-one either. Preferably not. I have better options. But I do want a better Tonex hardware unit. An all-in-one might be the feasible solution for IK commercially. I don’t know — perhaps there are enough people like me out there?
 
Richard_G said:
Yeah, I don’t necessarily want an all-in-one either. Preferably not. I have better options. But I do want a better Tonex hardware unit. An all-in-one might be the feasible solution for IK commercially. I don’t know — perhaps there are enough people like me out there?
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I agree. I like my Tonex but I'd love an update with a modern screen and higher quality input and XLR outs. Maybe an actual fx loop. I don't need or want a box that does everything.
 
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