IK Multimedia TONEX

[[Nathan]]

Must be the weekend for it, also knocked up a "How well is ToneX V2" video. TLDR its a massive update in terms of capture results and capturing workflow. It's gone from uninstalled to "this is pretty damn good", big turnaround. The results are pretty much splitting hairs with NAM now.

I've uploaded 45 captures like in the video to Tone3000 (NAM) and ToneNet... grab the caps and/or watch the video if you want to see them in action. But yeah, well done to IK. I only wish it launched this polished, but we're here now at least

EVH 5150 Iconic EL34 15w NAM Profiles by @ampspedalspickups · TONE3000

Check out ampspedalspickups's neural amp head capture for guitar, bass and recording: EVH 5150 Iconic EL34 15w Input calibrated to +13dBu Amp into RedSeven Amp Central Loadbox EQ is around 6/6/6 Resonance 5.5 Presence 7.5 APP-EVH-IC34-Ch1-OD Channel 1 with Overdrive Engaged APP-EVH-IC34-Ch2...

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TONEX Tone Model sharing community

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[Dimiguitar]

Was looking for some

Must be the weekend for it, also knocked up a "How well is ToneX V2" video. TLDR its a massive update in terms of capture results and capturing workflow. It's gone from uninstalled to "this is pretty damn good", big turnaround. The results are pretty much splitting hairs with NAM now.

I've uploaded 45 captures like in the video to Tone3000 (NAM) and ToneNet... grab the caps and/or watch the video if you want to see them in action. But yeah, well done to IK. I only wish it launched this polished, but we're here now at least

EVH 5150 Iconic EL34 15w NAM Profiles by @ampspedalspickups · TONE3000

Check out ampspedalspickups's neural amp head capture for guitar, bass and recording: EVH 5150 Iconic EL34 15w Input calibrated to +13dBu Amp into RedSeven Amp Central Loadbox EQ is around 6/6/6 Resonance 5.5 Presence 7.5 APP-EVH-IC34-Ch1-OD Channel 1 with Overdrive Engaged APP-EVH-IC34-Ch2...

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ToneNET

TONEX Tone Model sharing community

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I like your videos. You have this nice energy about you.

The only note I would make is that I don't think V2 fixed gain mismatches. When I capture and compare to original, I still see a difference, at least over here.

But it doesn't matter much to me because it's easy to compensate if needed, and it works.

 

[[Nathan]]

Was looking for some

I like your videos. You have this nice energy about you.

The only note I would make is that I don't think V2 fixed gain mismatches. When I capture and compare to original, I still see a difference, at least over here.

But it doesn't matter much to me because it's easy to compensate if needed, and it works.

Thanks man. I wasn’t sure if ToneX people even cared about gain staging really, a lot of nam guys are all over it. These ones here are done to +13dBu if that helps.

And yeah that’s another reason I did those capture packs in stepped gain levels. Just helps people flick through and find their sweet spot.

In terms of browsing other people’s captures I also find it hit and miss, I typically just stick to my own stuff or packs from 2dor / mirrorprofiles / slamminmofo, anyone who generally gets the stuff right. But just cruising tone3000 or tonenet, I don’t really do it.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I've uploaded 45 captures like in the video to Tone3000 (NAM) and ToneNet... grab the caps and/or watch the video if you want to see them in action.

Not my wheelhouse but pretty nice captures. Different gain captures are most welcomed, I'd say.

 

[Dimiguitar]

Btw heads up to live ready studios for their rockeverb V2 pack. You can get near identical sounds with fractal devices, if you know how (just tried this), but these are the best rockeverb captures I've played on the tonex ecosystem.

 

[[Nathan]]

Not my wheelhouse but pretty nice captures. Different gain captures are most welcomed, I'd say.

The “cleanest” is channel 1 OD with gain on 1. Pretty usable as a clean to EOB sound. I was using it a fair bit with some pedals and also pickup switching.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Fwiw, it's quite stunning just how much of a quality difference there is between free captures on ToneNET. Sure, there's certainly some input leveling issues involved, especially in case people are only using the plugin with no experience how to set your input gain, but as I always give them the benefit of a doubt I quickly grab my interface's input trim, which I've set to offer leeway in either direction for these testing purposes (the pot sits around 50cm away from my right hand) - and even with that, there's some patches making me go WTF?!? all the way. I often don't even get the intended purpose of some captures. I mean, there's amps that should sound as thick as it gets, and the capture sounds like a broken toy amp.

And it doesn't even stop there, similar things can be said about some of the IK collections. I just redeemed every single one of them due to their groupbuy, and I'm absolutely undwhelmed by all of the Brown Sound collections. They're pretty noisy and kinda fizzy, too. Maybe it's my guitars and me not being EvH, but still, I expected more. Otoh, the Alex Lifeson collection has some gems and a handful of high gainers that are surprisingly low-noise-ish.

Maybe all that goes to show how a unified capturing procedure would help on all accounts.

 

[Dimiguitar]

I'm absolutely undwhelmed by all of the Brown Sound collections. They're pretty noisy and kinda fizzy, too. Maybe it's my guitars and me not being EvH, but still, I expected more. Otoh, the Alex Lifeson collection has some gems and a handful of high gainers that are surprisingly low-noise-ish.

I like EVH tones a lot, even if not for EVH style playing. But if you are used to different kind of tones, it's going to be quite a jump.

 

[bucephalus]

Fwiw, it's quite stunning just how much of a quality difference there is between free captures on ToneNET. Sure, there's certainly some input leveling issues involved, especially in case people are only using the plugin with no experience how to set your input gain, but as I always give them the benefit of a doubt I quickly grab my interface's input trim, which I've set to offer leeway in either direction for these testing purposes (the pot sits around 50cm away from my right hand) - and even with that, there's some patches making me go WTF?!? all the way. I often don't even get the intended purpose of some captures. I mean, there's amps that should sound as thick as it gets, and the capture sounds like a broken toy amp.

And it doesn't even stop there, similar things can be said about some of the IK collections. I just redeemed every single one of them due to their groupbuy, and I'm absolutely undwhelmed by all of the Brown Sound collections. They're pretty noisy and kinda fizzy, too. Maybe it's my guitars and me not being EvH, but still, I expected more. Otoh, the Alex Lifeson collection has some gems and a handful of high gainers that are surprisingly low-noise-ish.

Maybe all that goes to show how a unified capturing procedure would help on all accounts.

I am finding that there is often quite a large volume difference between the tone models as they are untouched on a fair few of the tonex signature collections.

 

[laxu]

And it doesn't even stop there, similar things can be said about some of the IK collections. I just redeemed every single one of them due to their groupbuy, and I'm absolutely undwhelmed by all of the Brown Sound collections. They're pretty noisy and kinda fizzy, too. Maybe it's my guitars and me not being EvH, but still, I expected more. Otoh, the Alex Lifeson collection has some gems and a handful of high gainers that are surprisingly low-noise-ish.

I wonder if IK will upgrade those to Tonex V2, if they have the dry tracks.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Just inspecting the Joe Satriani collection. If I'd paid some actual money for it, I'd be looking for revenge. I have no idea what anyone might've been thinking.

 

[Chocol8]

If you don’t think the EVH packs capture the EVH sound, I think there is a problem somewhere on your end, or Eddies tone just isn’t to your taste.

 

[Mongillo19]

If you don’t think the EVH packs capture the EVH sound, I think there is a problem somewhere on your end, or Eddies tone just isn’t to your taste.

Yeah I do like the Brown sound packs. They have a "chewiness" (good ol tone description language) to them that I haven't quite seen replicated in digital gear.

I could see how someone wouldn't like them though, they are pretty unique imo

 

[Deadpan]

Btw heads up to live ready studios for their rockeverb V2 pack. You can get near identical sounds with fractal devices, if you know how (just tried this), but these are the best rockeverb captures I've played on the tonex ecosystem.

This is a new 100 watt mk3. I did hand pick the preamp tubes for it before capturing.

 

[Dimiguitar]

If you don’t think the EVH packs capture the EVH sound, I think there is a problem somewhere on your end, or Eddies tone just isn’t to your taste.

Even with V1, they get so close to EVH tones imo. First time I play captures on any ecosystem that sound convincing for this.

 

[Dimiguitar]

This is a new 100 watt mk3. I did hand pick the preamp tubes for it before capturing.

Were these shot with a loadbox or using a real cab as a load? If so, which cab? Thanks

 

[Deadpan]

Were these shot with a loadbox or using a real cab as a load? If so, which cab? Thanks

I used a real cabinet as the load (Mesa 2x12) to a Neve RNDI into a Grace preamp.

 

[Sascha Franck]

If you don’t think the EVH packs capture the EVH sound, I think there is a problem somewhere on your end, or Eddies tone just isn’t to your taste.

I like Van Halens tone. But I don't like these captures. And they're really quite noisy.

 

[dean701]

If you don’t think the EVH packs capture the EVH sound, I think there is a problem somewhere on your end, or Eddies tone just isn’t to your taste.

Yep. I could live off the variety just in these brown packs.
For reference, I play an ebmm axis into an audient id44. Audient at 0db, tonex software input at 4.6db. Amp gain flat. Bad gal 68v lr hot. I can get eob with guitar volume all the way to rippin. Adjust presence as needed but mine is at noon.

 

[dbagchee]

Must be the weekend for it, also knocked up a "How well is ToneX V2" video. TLDR its a massive update in terms of capture results and capturing workflow. It's gone from uninstalled to "this is pretty damn good", big turnaround. The results are pretty much splitting hairs with NAM now.

I've uploaded 45 captures like in the video to Tone3000 (NAM) and ToneNet... grab the caps and/or watch the video if you want to see them in action. But yeah, well done to IK. I only wish it launched this polished, but we're here now at least

EVH 5150 Iconic EL34 15w NAM Profiles by @ampspedalspickups · TONE3000

Check out ampspedalspickups's neural amp head capture for guitar, bass and recording: EVH 5150 Iconic EL34 15w Input calibrated to +13dBu Amp into RedSeven Amp Central Loadbox EQ is around 6/6/6 Resonance 5.5 Presence 7.5 APP-EVH-IC34-Ch1-OD Channel 1 with Overdrive Engaged APP-EVH-IC34-Ch2...

www.tone3000.com

ToneNET

TONEX Tone Model sharing community

www.tone.net

Thanks for sharing these! They sound fantastic with the York Audio Mesa 4x12 Oversized IR. I haven't been a fan of much of the EVH/5150 model captures thus far, but these are my favorite now. Really good idea to capture all of the gain levels - pretty cool to be able to "dial back" the gain by selecting another capture.